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MM8 sounds vs MOX8 #2372241 01/04/12 04:07 PM
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Hey guys -

After a few trips to Guitar Center, I finally ended up buying an MM8 and after taking it home and really diving into the sounds it offers, I have to say I am kind of disappointed. The piano sounds are not great (very thin in the upper registers), the strings sound about the same as my late 90s PSR Yamaha model, I wish there were more synth sounds.... That said, I do love most of the EPs that are on the MM8 and some of the vintage electric guitars are really cool.

My question is, if I return this MM8 to Guitar Center, is paying 700 bucks more for the MOX8 worth it? Is the sound quality going to be much better? I know there is definitely a wider array of sounds. Is the piano sound on the MOX8 generally considered superior to the pianos on the MM8? I love playing around with TONS of sounds, but the piano is my bread and butter. The MM8 doesn't feel all that expressive either. The softs aren't that soft and the louds aren't that loud when you hit the piano.

You guys think itís worth it to pack up the MM8 and drop the extra cash for a MOX8? My main concern is sound quality. Iíve heard the MOX8 is a totally different engine from the MM8, so I assume itís a BETTER sound engine, correct?

Other than a bogus 15 percent restocking fee (that I feel like I should be able to negotiate since the thing was an open box when they brought it out of storage), I can return the MM8 within 14 days and get all my money back and put it towards an MOX8.

Iíd love to hear all your thoughts! Anyone gone from an MM8 up to an MOX8 before? Were you really happy with the upgrade?

Thanks guys!

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Re: MM8 sounds vs MOX8 [Re: awerda87] #2372247 01/04/12 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: awerda87
You guys think itís worth it to pack up the MM8 and drop the extra cash for a MOX8? My main concern is sound quality. Iíve heard the MOX8 is a totally different engine from the MM8, so I assume itís a BETTER sound engine, correct?


Yes, the MOX8 is a much better keyboard and is based on sounds from the Motif XS... a larger sample set. (The MM8 sounds come from the Motif ES). The MOX8 offers more features, it's easier to tweak sounds, and you'll get a much better sequencer should you need one.

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Other than a bogus 15 percent restocking fee (that I feel like I should be able to negotiate since the thing was an open box when they brought it out of storage), I can return the MM8 within 14 days and get all my money back and put it towards an MOX8.


Yeah, a restocking fee is nonsense. I've never paid one when returning a keyboard at other stores (which was a rare event).



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Re: MM8 sounds vs MOX8 [Re: Synthoid] #2372249 01/04/12 04:18 PM
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Yeah I just called them on the phone and since I've only had it for a day and the box is in good shape, I think they will waive that.

PLUS the MM8 box was open when they brought it out of the storage room, but claimed it was never used.

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so not concerning any of the sequencer features, just talking sounds and tweak-ability, it seems like the MOX8 is far superior. I played both in the store but when I got home with headphone, a lot of the sounds on the MM8 just sounded kinda crappier than expected.

Re: MM8 sounds vs MOX8 [Re: awerda87] #2372252 01/04/12 04:23 PM
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This is definitely a case where you get what you pay for.

Actually, the MM series is long overdue for an upgrade so we might see something new from Yamaha at the upcoming NAMM show.

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Re: MM8 sounds vs MOX8 [Re: awerda87] #2372253 01/04/12 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: awerda87
I played both in the store but when I got home with headphone, a lot of the sounds on the MM8 just sounded kinda crappier than expected.


If you don't need 88 keys, you can save $$$ by purchasing the MOX6.


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Gotta be 88 and gotta be weighted. Grew up on real pianos, that's one thing I can't sacrifice.

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Never owned either but the MOX is a lot more board.

You will getting a lot more than just better sounds. If I didn't have to control multiple external rack units and thus was so hung up on sliding faders I would be playing a MOX8. I think it is a good deal for the money. The only thing that would worry me is I don't know how well I would be able to read the control panel in low light situations.

Old age sucks but I guess it beat the alternative.

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Re: MM8 sounds vs MOX8 [Re: CEB] #2372270 01/04/12 04:57 PM
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yeah, sounds like the consensus is MOX8 is a lot more and worth it for the money. I do most of my sequencing and recording in the computer, not the board, but it's something I could learn. I'm more interested in the MOX8's massive sound bank. Sounds like it's a winner.

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Originally Posted By: awerda87
Gotta be 88 and gotta be weighted. Grew up on real pianos, that's one thing I can't sacrifice.


And you're getting a MOX8? smile

I keed, I keed. I have played the thing and it's got a VERY bouncy feel, but yeah, for EPs and pop piano it'll be fine. Can't beat the weight. The MM8 is not in the same class. It was the poorer man's MO8 when it came out.

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Ditto with everyone else about the comparison with the MM8. I've played the MM8 and this board is vastly superior IMO. Likewise with the pianos. Mine was ordered as a demo model from Sweetwater, payed $300 less than new. Supposedly, there were some scratches on the bottom. This board arrived in its original box, fully wrapped with the included accessories as if the box was never opened. I gave this board a full inspection and did not find a scratch anywhere.

This is a great board with a lot more features. You'll be glad you made the switch!


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A couple of years back I took home a MM6 to try. I wanted a utility type of a board, something just to have on hand. Needless to say I took it back. After reading reviews in Keyboard magazine about the moX-8 I went in & did a trade of my RD-300SX & took home a spanking new one. I've been really pleased with it except it's been a bit of a struggle doing splits & layers. I've finally got that down, so I'm really glad I did the deal. Nothing like cruising into rehearsal with a 30 lb weighted keyboard & a double braced X-stand. Rehearsals used to make me crazy lugging in a old school 80+lb RD-300 (like a coffin) then an 53 lb Alesis QS-8 (like carrying a log), then watching the guitar players trot in with their 10 lb guitar & their 20 lb practise amp.

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Originally Posted By: Synthoid
Originally Posted By: awerda87
I played both in the store but when I got home with headphone, a lot of the sounds on the MM8 just sounded kinda crappier than expected.


If you don't need 88 keys, you can save $$$ by purchasing the MOX6.


You can also add an 88 note Keyboard controller if you wish, and you can find used 88 note keyboards with midi pretty cheap! I just purchased a KRONOS 61 and faced the same decision.. 61 vs 88.. and for me it was really a no brainer because the 61 is lighter and it can fit into smaller spaces.. if I need 88 note weighted action I can add my Yamaha KX8 controller and I'll have two keyboards that can be set up to access two different sounds (and a lot more of course).. So unless you're a traditional piano player who's really into weighted keyboards think about the 61 note.. it's so small and lightweight but it's got a huge sound.. If I wasn't prepared to blow the wad on the Kronos, I would have gotten the MOX6.

Re: MM8 sounds vs MOX8 [Re: Craig MacDonald] #2372291 01/04/12 06:00 PM
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You may be interested in my MOX demo videos:

KeybdWizrd's MOX6 Demo Videos (4)

I am a big fan of the MOX.


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Originally Posted By: Craig MacDonald
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If you don't need 88 keys, you can save $$$ by purchasing the MOX6.


You can also add an 88 note Keyboard controller if you wish

Yes... as I mentioned to the OP elsewhere as well... I'm selling my MOX8. If I had to gig with just one board, the MOX8 would probably be the one, because I think it's the lightest piano-weighted board that is versatile and good sounding enough to do pretty much everything I'd want. But I never gig with just one board, and in that case, I decided it would be better to go with a MOX6 (or a Motif Rack XS), because then I could get an even smaller, lighter, and possibly better feeling weighted action board and still have the Yamaha sounds I like.

It's kind of strange that you could actually buy a Yamaha P95 and a Yamaha MOX6 for almost the same price as a MOX8 alone and end up with everything the MOX8 gives you plus the benefit of simultaneous access to 88 weighted and 61 unweighted keys. But if someone really only wants one board, the MOX8 is a good answer.


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Awesome. Thanks everyone for your input.

I'm heading back to Guitar Center tonight with the MM8 in tow to take it back and get the MOX8.

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Enjoy the MOX8!


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Get it used on Ebay or craigslist. You'll probably save a fortune!


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