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Suggestions on volume pedals? #2370398
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Looking for a good volume pedal to control an external module....


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I use Roland EV-5 because they're relatively inexpensive. Make sure whatever you get is compatible though.

I should add that mine is shorting out after 5 years use...so I got another one for Xmas. But still, that's a decent shelf life for a pedal!

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Do you want a control pedal to control midi volume or an inline volume pedal to attenuate an audio signal?


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I just bought a Boss pedal, it feels very solid and can be both volume (mono and stereo) and cc/control pedal. I usually get Ev5:s but after going through two during my last tour I'm going to try the boss pedals.

Re: Suggestions on volume pedals? [Re: Analogaddict] #2370431
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I use EV5 but i think that for an external module -especially an older one- you'll be needing an inline volume pedal (Boss or the likes). That'd be good to specify the module


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I have three exp pedals

Yamaha FC7
Boss FV300L
Hammond Exp 50

All of them is build like a tank. Hammond has the best feeling but is most expensvie. Boss has 2 out and in, that you can have the pedal for two keyb at the same time, and has a knob for volume minimum at start. FC7 is really nice to and doesnt cost much.


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Re: Suggestions on volume pedals? [Re: KeyMoe] #2370456
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I'm using a boss 500L which controls my Kurz ME-1 and NC2. Great pedal less mess under the rig. I also have an fc-7 with another rig; great pedal as well. If you u can grab an ev-5 cheap, keep it as a spare in your cable bag.


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Re: Suggestions on volume pedals? [Re: jpgxk3] #2370494
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I have a Kurzweil brand pedal. It feels cheap, with very light resistance so hard to control well. Throw seems OK but might be a bit on the short side. The good point is the form factor: it's very light and narrow and fits well with my other pedals and in my kit bag.

I'd like a better pedal in a similar form factor. Heavier is OK but I don't want one with a big fat footprint like some I've seen.

I'd like one that feels like Ernie Ball guitar volume pedals. Guitarists may know what I mean. It has smooth, firm, consistant resistance, making it very easy to control.

Appreciate any suggestions, thanks!

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Would a pedal like this work for volume for a Casio Privia PX3?


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The PX3 doesn't have an "expression pedal" input. You have 2 options:

1) analog audio volume pedal, which goes on the audio cable. If you run in stereo, you'll need a stereo volume pedal. I particularly like the Ernie Ball volume pedals.

2) MIDI expression pedal like Digitech MC2, set to control MIDI CC #7 or #11 (depending on what the PX-3 accepts).

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Thanks! Helpful info.


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It will be used to control a Roland XV5050. I think I prefer an in-line versus midi. Anyone have any experience with the Earnie Ball VP JR?


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Re: Suggestions on volume pedals? [Re: KeyMoe] #2370758
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Ernie Ball makes great volume pedals. I'm not familiar with that particular one.

Why do you prefer in-line?

Before settling on that, make sure you understand a crucial difference between in-line audio volume attenuators and MIDI expression pedals.

The MIDI expression pedal can be assigned to any one of a number of MIDI controls, so it can be used for things other than volume. The in-line audio volume attenuator pedal can be used only for volume (ignoring the use of a volume-MIDI converter like the one by MidiSolutions).

The most popular use of an expression pedal by folks on this forum is for controlling a Hammond organ sim ("clonewheel"). The expression pedal does control volume, but it's a volume control that's in front of the (simulated) tube amp. Pushing down on the pedal doesn't just increase volume; it also increases overdrive distortion, and this is a crucial aspect for a lot of Hammond playing.

You can also use it as a wah pedal, a filter control, vibrato control, etc.

Finally, if you want to run in stereo, you'd need a stereo in-line volume pedal, but no difference on a MIDI pedal.

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I use the Behringer FCV100 pedal. It's been durable and reliable through about 100 gigs now.
Behringer FCV100 at Musician's Friend

Functions as a dual (stereo or two mono keyboards) inline volume pedal, or as a MIDI Continuous Controller (CC) input.
Only gripe at this moment is that the taper is incorrect for my Kurz PC1x, so I only get volume control over the first 30% of pedal travel. It was great for my Yamaha.


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I've been using a Yamaha FC7 for about 10 years now - have a back-up one as well, as one of them has needed 1st a replacement 1/4" plug, then a whole new cable... they are built like tanks, solid, feel good and do not tend to move around on the floor the way my yamaha sustain pedal does... I use the fc-7 to control my nord stage 76 for the hammond, as well as volume in various synth patches and the wah on clav patches...


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I use the Roland EV-5 which I use with my Rolands (on the Fantom G right now), but I also have the Yamaha FC7 for my DX7 which is a much better pedal, so i'd recommend that if it's compatible with whatever you're going to use it with. The Roland is average.

Does the XV-5050 actually have a pedal input? Isn't that a module?

EDIT sorry just realised you're thinking of going inline (across audio). I think BOSS make a volume pedal that's supposed to be quite good and doubles up as both.

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Originally Posted By: klauss
I've been using a Yamaha FC7 for about 10 years now - have a back-up one as well, as one of them has needed 1st a replacement 1/4" plug, then a whole new cable... they are built like tanks, solid, feel good and do not tend to move around on the floor the way my yamaha sustain pedal does... I use the fc-7 to control my nord stage 76 for the hammond, as well as volume in various synth patches and the wah on clav patches...
Thanks. The picture shows the hinge at the back of the heel. I'd prefer it at the front of the heel or closer to under the arch. It says the hinge point is adjustable. Does that work out well?

Cable/connector issues: not a problem. I've replaced the cable at least once on ever pedal I've ever owned.

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I use a Yamaha FC7 with my Triton Extreme. Most rock solid pedal I've ever owned. It's gets beat on, tossed around, and still works as new after 6 years.

A lot of my use is to bring in and out various timbres in a combi on the Triton Ex. It's cool being able to bring in the layered strings while playing the piano for example, and slowly fade them out while keeping both hand firmly on the keyboard.

As someone else said, it also stays in place, unlike my Yamaha sustain pedal that I must tape down at every gig so it doesn't walk off stage on it's own wink



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Re: Suggestions on volume pedals? [Re: Analogaddict] #2370994
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Originally Posted By: Analogaddict
I just bought a Boss pedal, it feels very solid and can be both volume (mono and stereo) and cc/control pedal. I usually get Ev5:s but after going through two during my last tour I'm going to try the boss pedals.


Have you run into any problems with your new Boss pedal? I purchased a Boss FV500L with the intention of using it as an expression pedal to replace the "pos" plastic EV5 pedal I use with my RD700SX. Unfortunately, the Boss pedal wouldn't sweep the entire 0 - 127 range of volume values. When connected to my RD700SX and in the "pedal to the floor" position - the volume "value" on the RD700SX topped out at 100 - and could not be adjusted to improve on that.

I ended up selling it to a guitar play who uses it as an in-line "volume" pedal between his guitar and amp.


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If you want a smaller, lighter, less expensive one that does the job well before it quits working (prob less then 2 years) go with the Roland EV-5

The Yamaha FC7 is more $$ but well built feels good in use and doesnt slide across the floor!

I've got both for different apps.

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The lower-end Roland CC pedal is poorly built, falls apart quickly, and doesn't have very usable travel distance. I have not had an opportunity to try their more recent mega-expensive high-end pedal though, which I think is designed to be used by organ players.

I've been using the Yamaha FC7 for awhile now and find it well constructed and the most broad in its expressive range of the EXP oriented "volume" pedals.

I also have the Kurz CC pedal as its range works better with Kurz keyboards due to the different impedance level.

As far as true volume pedals go, you can do no better than Hilton, who cater to pedal steel guitar players. Built like a tank, and priced accordingly. :-) Very subtle reaction to minute movement. Pedal steel guitar players need this level of resolution.


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Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
The lower-end Roland CC pedal is poorly built, falls apart quickly, and doesn't have very usable travel distance.


If you refer to the EV5 (do you ?) I have a different experience.
I buyed mine beginning of the 90th, toured w/ it over europe while all my gear was in the hands of roadies and it never showed a failure up today.
So, maybe the build quality changed over the years.

Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder

I've been using the Yamaha FC7 for awhile now and find it well constructed and the most broad in its expressive range of the EXP oriented "volume" pedals.


I had 4 FC7 and still own 2, all that old like the EV5.
2 of these we found in parts in cases ...
There is this little metal angle for adjustment of the pedal travel for sitting and standing position, this fixed by a screw.
These metal angles can break and since then I have several of these parts as spares.

Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder

I also have the Kurz CC pedal as its range works better with Kurz keyboards due to the different impedance level.


The Kurz pedal is a Fatar pedal which is over 40% cheaper from Fatar,- I use 2 for my PC3 and they are identical.
The impedance of a EV5, a Kurz and a Fatar pedal is identical.
ThereŽs also a M-Audio which works.

Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder

As far as true volume pedals go, you can do no better than Hilton, who cater to pedal steel guitar players. Built like a tank, and priced accordingly. :-) Very subtle reaction to minute movement. Pedal steel guitar players need this level of resolution.


Well, the Hilton looks massive, speaking from standard volume pedals, not MIDI expression pedals like the ones above.
IŽd wish we have such MIDI expression pedal constructions !

The best standard volume pedal I ever had was Ernie Ball I used for my Fender Rhodes and Clavinet D6 in the past.

Up today IŽm impressed of the reliability of my old Moog and Oberheim CV pedals w/ sealed Allen Bradley pots and the one I had from Sequential Circuits for the Prophet 5 was also a heavy beast.
A Midisolutions Pedal Control box makes Žem excellent MIDI expression pedals.

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I think the EV5 build quality did change over the years; there are some products out there that retain their model name but not their construction details and components (guitar effects pedals are a case in point).

These days most people recommend the BOSS expression pedals as superior build quality and better sensitivity than the EV5. Everyone I know who has owned an EV5 over the past ten years or so has suffered sudden failure. And we're all careful with gear.

The Ernie Ball pedals have gone way down in quality a well. I owned one of the stereo pan units years ago and sold it to the guitarist in my band at the time, as I temporarily dropped guitar playing for a few years. That one was built like a tank.

Although the Roland, Kurz and Fatar CC pedals have the same impedance, the Yamaha pedal is different. It's good to have one of each, when mixing keyboards. I also have the expensive heavy duty model from Hammond for use with my XK-3c (special connector). I like that one the best of all, but it isn't compatible with non-Hammond gear due to the end pins.


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I have had bad luck with the EV 5s I have owned...


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