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#2167024 - 02/22/10 01:48 PM Melodica?
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Which model would you recommend?


Edited by Jazz+ (02/24/10 07:25 AM)
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#2167027 - 02/22/10 02:00 PM Re: Best Melodica? [Re: Jazz+]
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I know a few jazz pros here in Oslo play the Hammond one (it's ridiculously priced here... around $500-$700)as it has a built in pick-up.. but I found it shrill and tinny sounding acoustically due to its metallic body. I heard a cheap wooden one and it sounded like the living breathing instrument it is...

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#2167036 - 02/22/10 02:19 PM Re: Best Melodica? [Re: orangefunk]
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I see various models made by

Merano
Schoenhut
Hohner
Hammond
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#2167038 - 02/22/10 02:26 PM Re: Best Melodica? [Re: Jazz+]
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Nothing touches the Hammond-Suzuki Melodion 44.

The mouthpiece has a nice reed inside that gives you all sorts of expressive possibilities.

Great construction, three types of mouthpieces/extensions, well-tuned sound.

You can make it sound anywhere from a concertina, accordion, or harmonica, or even a little bit like a sax.
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#2167041 - 02/22/10 02:35 PM Re: Best Melodica? [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Visit www.melodicas.com for tons of info on this wonderful instrument.

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#2167047 - 02/22/10 02:40 PM Re: Best Melodica? [Re: VLH]
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I have the Hammond Suzuki and although it's too expensive no other melodica can beat the sound. It's just wonderful. The feel of the keyboard is perfect and the fact that you plug it (with effect pedals) makes the performance inspiring.
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#2167048 - 02/22/10 02:40 PM Re: Best Melodica? [Re: Jazz+]
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#2167054 - 02/22/10 02:52 PM Re: Best Melodica? [Re: Jazz+]
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#2167071 - 02/22/10 04:03 PM Re: Best Melodica? [Re: Jazz+]
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+1 on www.melodicas.com. BTW - the guy that runs that site posts here as Acidolem (read the name backwards).

I use 2 melodicas regularly: a Hammond 36, and a Suzuki Melodion M37. I've found that notes often stick on the Suzuki if I blow hard. particularly on the bottom 5th. I've never had that issue with the Hohner.

Depending on the melodica you'll have to experiment to find the best mic position. The Hammond takes care of this by having a built-in pickup. I've had the most success mic'ing the Hohner from underneath and the Suzuki from the side due to the placement of the vents on those instruments. YMWV! I love the idea of the Hammond but spending $600 bucks on one is not in the cards.

That said, a melodica is a wonderful and very expressive instrument that I'm sure you will love! Be prepared to answer questions about it every time you pull it out on a gig. smile
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#2167072 - 02/22/10 04:06 PM Re: Best Melodica? [Re: MonksDream]
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Wow, it's gone way up in price, just like the XK-series organs! I got my Melodion 44 for around $400 early last year.
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#2167135 - 02/23/10 02:13 AM Re: Best Melodica? [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Still showing at $500. We also had the 20% off GC coupon which many others honor. cool

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#2167139 - 02/23/10 03:50 AM Re: Best Melodica? [Re: Markyboard]
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i got myself a Hohner Student for 30 bucks. Does the job. I'm sure it will sound very similar to a $500 melodica once you mic it up and put it through the PA.
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#2167149 - 02/23/10 05:19 AM Re: Best Melodica? [Re: konaboy]
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Hammond is introducing 2 new Melodions, a bass melodion and a deluxe version of the Hammond Pro44.

http://tinyurl.com/HammondNAMM


There will also be a new finished wood version of the 2101MkII Leslie.

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#2167188 - 02/23/10 07:31 AM Re: Best Melodica? [Re: JMcS]
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Thanks for the replies!

By the way, I think Lande plays a Hohner 36

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#2167231 - 02/23/10 10:18 AM Re: Best Melodica? [Re: Jazz+]
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Not sure why you named this thread "Best Melodica", as you've thus far ignored the unanimous answer to that question. Probably would have been better to ask "What melodica does Art Lande play?". thu
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#2167241 - 02/23/10 10:55 AM Re: Best Melodica? [Re: Sven Golly]
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I have the Hammond 44 and it is worth every penny. However, it's understandable that lots of folks don't have that much money lying around to buy something that will not be a main gigging axe. I also have a $25 melodica to take to the beach. Because why should guitar players have all the fun there. It gets the job done nicely.
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#2167351 - 02/23/10 05:10 PM Re: Best Melodica? [Re: Adan]
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Yamaha now has some melodicas available in the US. (They call theirs a "Pianica." FAIL!) Haven't found one to try yet. Has anyone? http://www.yamaha.com/namm/w2009/PressRe...2&DDL_CAT=0

+1 on melodicas.com and here is an on-line vendor for Yamaha:
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-P37D-Pianica-Keyboard-Instrument/dp/B002R7U6VM
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#2167357 - 02/23/10 05:45 PM Re: Best Melodica? [Re: reidmc]
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I saw those at the show but didn't try them as they looked like toys. Nothing wrong with that as kids need something to get them inspired at an early age. My guess was that was the market (school music programs, where they still exist).

This isn't meant to disparage these units if they actually sound at a professional level. I had run out of steam by the time I got to the Yamaha booth; I don't have the energy for NAMM anymore.
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#2167459 - 02/24/10 07:24 AM Re: Best Melodica? [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Thanks for all the responses.

What about the wooden "Mylodica" , http://www.melodicas.com/mylodica.htm

It seems to be the favorite at the site www.melodicas.com

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#2167466 - 02/24/10 08:10 AM Re: Best Melodica? [Re: Jazz+]
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I had good luck with the top-drawer Hohner model[36 keys]. If you're really in to it though the Hammond-Suzuki would be fun to test drive.
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#2167468 - 02/24/10 08:17 AM Re: Best Melodica? [Re: David Loving]
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I've got a Hohner my dad bought for me when I was maybe 13-14 years old...I'm 52 now and it still plays great.

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#2167481 - 02/24/10 08:50 AM Re: Best Melodica? [Re: area51recording]
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I'd also like to hear from anyone with a Mylodica... they look a beautiful and the audio samples sound great.

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#2167519 - 02/24/10 10:35 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: Jazz+]
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I've hesitated commenting as I sell melodicas and MyLodicas from my online site/home. I love this forum and did not want to spam my products. Opening pandoras box I proceed to babble.
There are pro/cons with all the wind pianos. Portability, cost, tone (subjective),tuning, parts which are becoming an important issue as more melodicas appear. An advantage of the Hohner and the MyLodica is that you can buy reed plates,and parts for them so with extended play you don't have to retire your instrument if/when you blow out a reed or lose a MP.The instruments are tunable but some are easier than others to get to the reeds. It's great to see a resurgence in this keyboard. 15 years ago few seemed to know,care, or play them.
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#2167570 - 02/24/10 01:54 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: acidolem]
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Hi Acidolem, Could you answer a question for me please? I like your website - I found it on google before you blew your cover! I did not understand what and where one files a reed to tune it. It says to file an end or at the base to change the pitch. Do you make it shorter - like file off an end, or do you make the reed thinner (File the top surface), or do you make the reed more narrow (file the sides? Thanks in advance - great site. I may get a Hohner 36 from you in the near future. I like to deal with forumites.
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#2167603 - 02/24/10 03:48 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: David Loving]
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Hi Daviel, you need to make the reed thinner (File the top surface)
depending then where you file on the top , front or back will determine changing the reed to a sharp or flat pitch. I recommend practicing on a cheap harmonica. It is easy to do but individual reeds can not be replaced as they are all riveted on a reed plate usually an octave each. I keep meaning to make a small video to clarify my confusing instructions on the site. Hope this helps.
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#2167625 - 02/24/10 06:17 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: acidolem]
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#2167683 - 02/24/10 10:55 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: David Loving]
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Hi Acidolem, Could you also answer some questions for me too?

I'm wondering which Melodica has the better key action. I worry that some would be a slippery for fast lines. The keys are little right? I imagine the keys action to be like playing on feathers without much finger support, could be hard to play well.

Also, which model gets closest to the sound of Toots Thieleamns chromatic harmonica? And can be pitch bent like Toots'?

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#2167758 - 02/25/10 09:06 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: Jazz+]
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The MyLodica is my fav for a fast quiet action. Great for Jazz or Irish music. Not sure what you mean by slippery. You can bend single notes down on a melodica, explained on my site, but not to the degree (range) that a Toots gets from his chromatic harmonica.
Some of the cheaper melodicas are easier to bend notes on as the reeds are thinner.
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#2167933 - 02/25/10 08:53 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: acidolem]
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Played a Hohner 36 today. Didn't use any mouthpiece, so my key view was from down the side. The black keys were narrower than I would like, so I found it hard to feel where I was on the keys because the black keys didn't feel like they were there guiding me. I had trouble with sequential 7th chord arpeggios, I kept missing the thumb placement after the cross under into the next octave up. The keys springs felt a little lighter than I would like, and the key depth quite shallow. Tone was nice. I couldn't bend a note.

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#2167951 - 02/25/10 11:54 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: Jazz+]
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The Hammond Pro44 is amazing. Really. I was not a believer until I played one (at Bill Levinson's place). Then I had to have one.
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#2168018 - 02/26/10 09:47 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: Jim Alfredson]
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Does the Hammond have larger black keys and a firmer action than the Hohner?

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#2168158 - 02/26/10 09:08 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: Jazz+]
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My Hammond 44 definitely has large keys (for a melodica) and very solid action, much better compared to an old Hohner. In a different category. Feels much more like an instrument, looks like one, and I think that all comes out in the playing, as it sounds so much better (and louder, since you can plug it in. I've had no problem with feedback, but one has to treat it like the active mic it is and not get in front of or too close to its amp. Highly recommended here.

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#2168159 - 02/26/10 09:11 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: nmcq]
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Anybody mess around with putting their Hammond 44 through an effects chain? I've had a ton of fun putting my Hammond 44 through effects box chain including distortion, wah-wah, delay, volume, chorus, and reverb. Starts to sound like a synth in some ways, but breath control makes it a new experience. Also put it through a Boss ME-50, and ManStage, with really unique results. Anyone else?

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#2168165 - 02/26/10 10:01 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: nmcq]
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Thanks for confirming the keys are bigger and more solid feeling.

Is it easier to pitch bend on the Hammond?


By the way, the Hohner 36 does sound very good in this session it almost sounds like Toots Thielemans' harmonica (good mic used?):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxacI_r97jE

Is this a Hammond 44? I think not, no low C and it's black...
http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=g7HIp_4m_E8&feature=related

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#2168175 - 02/26/10 11:04 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: Jazz+]
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This Japanese guy can play the Hammond 44 very well, nice pitch bending and nuance (a digital delay in effect):

http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnext=1&...p;v=8c0a3L8oUA8

I want one!

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#2168303 - 02/27/10 12:52 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: Jazz+]
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I didn't hear any pitch-bending. I'm not sure you can pitch bend on the H44...or any melodica for that matter. At least, I haven't figure out how... I'd love to know! smile
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#2168343 - 02/27/10 05:04 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: Jim Alfredson]
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I didn't hear any pitch-bending. I'm not sure you can pitch bend on the H44...or any melodica for that matter. At least, I haven't figure out how... I'd love to know! smile


From melodicas.com:

" As mentioned earlier it is more difficult to bend notes on a melodica than a Hohner harmonica as you are further from the reeds. It is however possible to achieve. While holding down a key and blowing steadily, slowly lift your finger allowing the key to rise (so it is at the point where the air flow is incomplete or choking the reed). At this time you will hear the pitch drop. A technique can be developed where by playing pressing the keys half way down while blowing, this Bending of notes will occur."

Can't say as I've had a great deal of success trying this with my Hohner 36, but I haven't spent a lot of time trying.
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#2168345 - 02/27/10 05:08 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: misterdregs]
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Messing about with it now, it does bend a bit, especially if you overblow the note, which also makes it easier not to lose the tone. I'll bet with a bit of practice one could get pretty good at it.
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#2168373 - 02/27/10 08:37 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: misterdregs]
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Steve on melodicas.com says in an interview with Brian Hass:

" Victory's are good. You know, the Victory's got a little thinner reed, so you can bend notes sometimes on them. "

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#2168392 - 02/27/10 10:35 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: Jazz+]
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I just took back my Suzuki M37 because the thin reeds often "stuck" when I blew hard leaving me with no note being sounded. However the same thin reeds made it easy to bend notes by simply overblowing. I find that it's not hard to bend notes on the Hohner with combinations of the half-key and over-blow techniques.
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#2168548 - 02/28/10 04:05 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: MonksDream]
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Thanks everybody.

Anybody having success bending notes on their Hammond Pro 44?

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#2168550 - 02/28/10 04:19 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: Jazz+]
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Well, I haven't played it recently. I'll report back when next I do. I could swear that I bent notes the last time. I'm staying away from mouthpiece instruments until I shake this cold that won't go away.
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#2168600 - 02/28/10 07:01 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: misterdregs]
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Originally Posted By: misterdregs
Messing about with it now, it does bend a bit, especially if you overblow the note, which also makes it easier not to lose the tone. I'll bet with a bit of practice one could get pretty good at it.


All true...I also have a Hohner 36. It's easier to bend the notes in the lower range than the higher notes. I've also found that using the "trumpet" mouthpiece gets better response than the "sax" mouthpiece.
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#2168927 - 03/02/10 06:05 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: Bucktunes]
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And what about LITTLE mics for a melodica?

I own 2 melodicas: one Hohner 32 and one from Thomann, but I dont use it live for not worrying about mics placement, mic stand, feedback,...

It would be nice to have a very little mic attached, velcroed to the melodica (no stantd required then) and have the choice of using it with guitar stompboxes...

What little mic do you recommend?
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#2169038 - 03/02/10 11:08 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: mcpepe]
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The bending technique outlined above does indeed work on the H44 and work very well. It will take some practice to make it second nature, but it sounds really cool!

Time to start sheddin'...
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#2169050 - 03/02/10 11:30 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: Jim Alfredson]
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Thanks,

I look forward to bending some notes on the Hammond once I get it.

Bending notes:

"As mentioned earlier it is more difficult to bend notes on a melodica than a harmonica as you are further from the reeds. It is however possible. While holding down a key and blowing steadily, slowly lift your finger allowing the key to rise (so it is at the point where the air flow is incomplete or choking the reed). At this time you will hear the pitch change. A technique can be developed where by playing pressing the keys half way down while blowing, this Bending of notes will occur."

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#2169070 - 03/02/10 12:19 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: mcpepe]
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Originally Posted By: mcpepe
And what about LITTLE mics for a melodica?

I own 2 melodicas: one Hohner 32 and one from Thomann, but I dont use it live for not worrying about mics placement, mic stand, feedback,...

It would be nice to have a very little mic attached, velcroed to the melodica (no stantd required then) and have the choice of using it with guitar stompboxes...

What little mic do you recommend?


I have one of the K&K Big Shot pickups stuck on the melodica. It works better than trying to get close into a microphone, but does pick up more key click than I would like.

But, if you're playing with a loud band, the key noise is not so noticeable and if you're in a quiet venue, you can probably do better with a regular mic.

http://www.kksound.com/bigshot.html
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#2170329 - 03/07/10 07:36 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: misterdregs]
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Re mic'ing melodicas:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVUlo-ZQ32U

Not my taste in music, but an elegant solution.

Personally, I'd avoid contact mics. They pick up mechanical vibration so you get all the clunks from the keys amplified too. Shifting the mic(s) around to find dead-spots for click can help, as does a graphic EQ, but it's not ideal.

I've messed around a little with bending. Start blowing before you depress the key and gradually apply a minuscule amount of pressure. This slurs you into notes. Not something I'd do with expensive melodicas, though, as just like with a mouth-organ, you're going to **** the reeds with time.


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#2170333 - 03/07/10 08:11 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: longfuse]
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Originally Posted By: longfuse
Re mic'ing melodicas:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVUlo-ZQ32U

Not my taste in music, but an elegant solution.


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#2170347 - 03/07/10 09:31 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: misterdregs]
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#2170453 - 03/07/10 07:20 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: mcpepe]
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And what about LITTLE mics for a melodica?

I own 2 melodicas: one Hohner 32 and one from Thomann, but I dont use it live for not worrying about mics placement, mic stand, feedback,...

It would be nice to have a very little mic attached, velcroed to the melodica (no stantd required then) and have the choice of using it with guitar stompboxes...

What little mic do you recommend?


HERE is how I solved the problem when using my Suzuki Pro37v2. The little mic was $20.00 and a couple of dollars for the other parts, excluding the wireless system of course.
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#2170478 - 03/07/10 08:41 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: DaveMcM]
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HERE is how I solved the problem when using my Suzuki Pro37v2. The little mic was $20.00 and a couple of dollars for the other parts, excluding the wireless system of course.

Dave - I recently returned my Suzuki M37 because of notes not being sounded when I blew hard. Is the Pro37 better in that regard?
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#2170502 - 03/08/10 05:13 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: MonksDream]
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I am in Japan for a week and today I played a Hammond 44H in a store. The sound was excellent and very resonant but I was very disapointed with the action. I could not play fast on it because the key drop was very shallow, the springs were light, and the black keys were quite slender. I gave up on it because I could not play fast at all. I also could not get the Hammond to bend any notes at all. I found a 25 year old Yamaha 32D (now days $50) here at the place I am staying and it is much easier to play fast. The key drop is deeper and the black keys seem a little wider and the springs a little more supportive. And I can get the notes to bend a little. I think am gonna get a new Yamaha 37D for $80 while I am here. For me a jazz player, action trumps tone. Here is a video of Japanese guy playing the Yamaha 37D, notice he gets a nice pitch bend at 1:15


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wSLUUbQV...=PL&index=4
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#2170515 - 03/08/10 06:28 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: MonksDream]
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Dave - I recently returned my Suzuki M37 because of notes not being sounded when I blew hard. Is the Pro37 better in that regard?


I never had/have that problem with the Pro37v2. Just like a harmonica though, you should be cautious about blowing too hard so you don't blow out (bend) a reed. But I think I have used a good amount of air pressure on occasion and never had a problem with the Pro37v2 or the Hammond H44 for that matter.

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#2170516 - 03/08/10 06:31 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: Jazz+]
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...I think am gonna get a new Yamaha 37D for $80 while I am here. Here is a video of Japanese guy playing the Yamaha 37D, notice he gets a nice pitch bend at 1:15


Probably a good idea. Keep in mind that it takes a little time to become acclimated and comfortable with any new keyboard, especially one with tiny little keys.

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#2170517 - 03/08/10 06:34 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: DaveMcM]
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Does the Pro37v2 have the sound and ation of the Hammond 44H ?

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#2170524 - 03/08/10 07:07 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: Jazz+]
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Does the Pro37v2 have the sound and ation of the Hammond 44H ?


The key size and travel is the same on both models. The H44 keyboard is very quiet, while the keys on the Pro37v2 are a little noisy, but not distractingly so. The actual reed sound is identical as far as I can tell, but the Pro37v2 is acoustically louder than the H44. As I told you in a PM, the body shape of the Pro37v2 is rounded on the back and so is much more comfortable to hold over the H44 or Hohner models and judging from the video link of the Yamaha, the same goes for that one. I really like my H44 with the built-in mic, but I wouldn't give up my Pro37v2.

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#2170590 - 03/08/10 09:51 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: DaveMcM]
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This has gotta be the best melodica video on the web:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrNLan4aaBQ&feature=related

Seems the guy (I assume it's a guy) is makin' decent money, too.
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#2170732 - 03/08/10 04:20 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: Adan]
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#2170748 - 03/08/10 05:32 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: longfuse]
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Here's Steve Slagel & Bob Albanese. Bob breaks out the Melodica around the 6:50 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Duowl7nv5Ss&feature=PlayList&p=1DEA59405E3AD503&index=7

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#2170758 - 03/08/10 06:03 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: moj]
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Lots of melodica inspiration out there.

However, I think I'll pass on the chicken costume.

I'm pretty sure our local Whole Foods does not have a grand piano, though. But an interesting place to pick up a Saturday afternoon gig.
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#2170780 - 03/08/10 07:08 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: DaveMcM]
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Originally Posted By: MonksDream
Dave - I recently returned my Suzuki M37 because of notes not being sounded when I blew hard. Is the Pro37 better in that regard?


I never had/have that problem with the Pro37v2. Just like a harmonica though, you should be cautious about blowing too hard so you don't blow out (bend) a reed. But I think I have used a good amount of air pressure on occasion and never had a problem with the Pro37v2 or the Hammond H44 for that matter.

Dave

Thanks, Dave. Based on the feedback in your posts I'm going to order the Pro37v2 and try it out.
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#2203815 - 06/21/10 01:24 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: MonksDream]
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I'm bumping this thread because I finally got my Suzuki Pro37v2 last week and played it on a couple of gigs over the weekend.

Short story: I LOVE IT!! thu

Longer story: It is very responsive, with great tone across the whole keyboard, smooth action, and excellent dynamic range. It has none of the issues I faced with the M37. Suzuki advertises the reeds as being more robust and it really shows. I can't get the reeds to 'choke' as they did on the M37. One can play in any register from pp to ff with control and authority. It's a little heavier than my others so I had to re-learn how to hold it. I also have to work out how best to mic it, which wasn't much of a problem 'cause this thing is loud! It feels like a whole different instrument. It's definitely woodshed time.

Thank you Dave McM, and everyone else, for your input. I'm now a very happy camper. grin
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#2203834 - 06/21/10 02:10 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: Jim Alfredson]
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#2204398 - 06/23/10 06:17 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: MonksDream]
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Originally Posted By: MonksDream
I'm bumping this thread because I finally got my Suzuki Pro37v2 last week and played it on a couple of gigs over the weekend.


Cool! I'm glad you like the Pro37v2. As for a mic, I was very happy with the little boom mic arrangement that I put together. You just have to careful not to get too close to your stage monitor or if you venture out in front of the band to not stand directly in front of the FOH system.

Best Regards,

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#2264882 - 01/21/11 02:16 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: DaveMcM]
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I am bumping this thread again for another question:

It seems like you all agree that the Hammond 44 is a great melodica. However - it's very expensive, about $800 in Sweden and even more for the HP version... and I will probably not use the internal mic much anyway. So my question is - does anyone have experience with the wooden MyLodica, and how does it compare to the Hammond, the Suzuki pro and/or the Hohner piano 36? I will use the melodica mainly for playing folk music acoustically, I guess mostly with fiddle (violin) players, and I would prefer as warm tone as possible, but still loud enough to be heard. I already have two cheap plastic melodicas - one is very loud, but is quite a bit out of tune and the other one has a bit softer tone and more keys, but at the same time it's a bit too noisy.

What do you think - should I go for the $250 MyLodica, a Hohner or Suzuki, or should I just save my money and go for the Hammond?
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#2264967 - 01/21/11 08:56 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: Mr T, Sweden]
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There is this band I saw playing at Grand Central Station a couple of years ago where one of the members played a melodica - tasty, simple parts.. I thought it was cool.
And I saw a melodica for sale down in the Village for $70 or so, but didn't have the money at the time. Next time I came around, it was gone.... Life is TOUGH in the big city, LOL!

Seriously, I had no idea that so many people actually played this instrument. I'd like to have one, but I'm already overextended with guitar, flute, mandolin and bass.... and I have a harmonica and trumpet, but I'll love those to the experts!

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#2265018 - 01/21/11 10:57 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: Mr T, Sweden]
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My search for a melodica is told in my previous posts in this thread. I have little experience with the Hammond, and that's probably for the best. It's a thing of beauty but the price ($600 here in Canada) is way out of my league. I like the idea of the MyLodica although I've never played one. I own a Hohner and it's good but not great.

I stand by my review of the Suzuki Pro37v2 above. It's an another class and blows away every other melodica I've ever played with the possible exception of the Hammond. Six months later I still love it and recommend it to anyone who's looking for a solid, good-looking, professional instrument at a reasonable price.
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#2265232 - 01/22/11 04:38 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: MonksDream]
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Originally Posted By: MonksDream
...I stand by my review of the Suzuki Pro37v2 above. It's an another class and blows away every other melodica I've ever played with the possible exception of the Hammond. Six months later I still love it and recommend it to anyone who's looking for a solid, good-looking, professional instrument at a reasonable price.


Yes, the Pro37v2 is a very nice instrument. I think I'd mentioned this in a prior post, but something I really like about it is it's shape. The rounded back makes it more comfortable to hold for extended periods.

Dave


Edited by DaveMcM (01/22/11 04:39 AM)
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#2265244 - 01/22/11 05:45 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: DaveMcM]
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So - does anyone have any experience of the MyLodica?
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#2265266 - 01/22/11 07:48 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: MonksDream]
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@Monk's dream (and davemcm): where did you get your Suzuki from, if I may ask? I'm thinking of buying one myself eventually (after reading your other posts). I like my HM36 but lately had problems with some reeds choking. Somehow I don't see many places selling them especially in Canada.
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#2265311 - 01/22/11 11:10 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: bourniplus]
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@bourniplus - I bought my Suzuki from Tom Lee Music here in Vancouver. They don't normally have the Pro37v2 in stock so they ordered it for me. It took about a week or so to come in. Two mouthpieces and an extension tube and a case are included. They do online sales as well.


Edited by MonksDream (01/22/11 11:10 AM)
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#2265736 - 01/23/11 03:45 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: MonksDream]
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I ordered my Pro37v2 through the Suzuki website whiched worked out just fine. Suzuki Melodions
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#2265796 - 01/23/11 06:12 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: DaveMcM]
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I just took a look at the Suzuki website and the price they quote is ~50% higher than what I paid for mine. I'd give Tom Lee a call before ordering from the Suzuki site. YMMV.
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#2265867 - 01/23/11 08:14 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: Jazz+]
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I'll be selling the Suzuki on my web site next week. not sure of the price
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#2271783 - 02/08/11 05:49 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: acidolem]
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I finally pulled the trigger on a Suzuki Pro37V2. The MyLodica might have a warmer tone, which could be nice, but since it's only available from the US, it was easier to order the Suzuki from a local dealer (no hazzle with toll fees, taxes and so on). I hope I made the right choice! smile Anyway it should arrive before the weekend.
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#2287169 - 03/29/11 08:17 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: Mr T, Sweden]
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Hello,

I just buy on web a Hohner 36 at musicstore in Germany.
I like the way it sounds. But the last tone (treble) is difficult to blow. And sometimes when I blow medium tones a kind of noisy vibration occurs at the end of the melodica. I dont know if it comes from the springs of the upper tones or from the reeds.
Have you already notice that on your Hohner 36?

This melodica was a promotion for "returning good". I believe something is wrong with it!

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#2287281 - 03/29/11 02:13 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: Mreg]
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You might be able to have the reeds adjusted. I wonder if this could be done at an accordion shop, as it's similar.
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#2287358 - 03/29/11 09:11 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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OT: Having a melodica tuned is so expensive that my friend Art Lande just buys a new Hohner every two years.

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#2287426 - 03/30/11 06:17 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: Jazz+]
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Like Mark said you could try taking it to an accordion shop and have the reeds checked, they should be able to tune it as well if it needs it.

I hope you guys won't mind if I take this opportunity to share a melodica-oriented vid I made about two weeks ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O7p4-a9inU the melodica is a Hohner HM36.
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#2287582 - 03/30/11 12:33 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: bourniplus]
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Thanks for the answer but it is not really out of tune, it's a noisy metallic vibration that occurs when playing some tones in the medium. Maybe it comes from some of the springs?

(cool le groove sur la video!)


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#2287782 - 03/31/11 09:46 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: Mreg]
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I just went to a famous accordeon luthier to ask him about the hohner 36. He believes the last generation was not so good.
I buy one of the last because Hohner stop the production in january...
He sells a "real" clavietta. Looks like new! I tried it. Really different that a melodica. Very confortable, stable. But sounds little strange:
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/watch?v=6R1aqQOnAEQ
Expensive (around 800 euros!)

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#2401229 - 04/04/12 11:36 AM Re: Melodica? [Re: Mreg]
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Has anybody tried both the Hammond 44 and 44HP?
I'm just wondering if there is any reason to get a 44 over a 44hp, more mellow tone for instance?

Also, are they still making them?

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#2401237 - 04/04/12 12:52 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: Merula]
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Like this guy (starts around 2:20):

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#2401248 - 04/04/12 01:48 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: Chad Thorne]
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HP is more brassy.
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#2401301 - 04/04/12 05:26 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: Jazz+]
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Is it (44hp) really much better though? Is there some preference involved?

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#2401519 - 04/05/12 12:07 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: Merula]
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I own a MyLodica and a Hammond 44, and I've also used a friend's cheap ebay melodica.

The MyLodica is my favorite acoustic sound. It's full and warmer on the high end. It sounds the most like a real instrument and not a toy. The key action is very good, although sometimes the keys are stuck when I first pick it up - but after clicking them once they are fine. (I would guess there is some residual condensation that is causing it to stick. I always try to blow through it very dryly at the end of using it, but it doesn't seem to avoid the issue.)

The Hammond has a very good acoustic sound, though not quite as rich as the MyLodica. The key action is also very good, maybe even better than the MyLodica (probably a taste thing as the keys are shaped very differently). The extended range is a nice treat. I don't have any issues with the keys sticking - it has a valve to allow you to blow air through the unit, so maybe that helps.

My friend's cheapie, as expected, comes in last acoustically. It's a thinner and sharper sound. Though in the grand scheme of things I can't say any of these are worlds apart. If I were going to the beach I'd bring a cheapie and not think twice.

I've also used these in an amplified context, and that mixes things up a bit. I try to get a amplified blues harmonica kind of sound, which means a fair amount of overdrive and rolling off a lot of high end. I also add a little delay and touch of reverb.

The MyLodica sounds great but is hard to amplify. I've tried mic'ing it, which sounds good but it is hard to control feedback with my setup. There are no vents cut in the wood box, so the sound is somewhat diffuse (probably part of why it sounds so good accoustically). I've also tried piezo mics with mixed success. If you put them on the outside of the MyLodica you get a lot of noise from the keys and from handling it. I had better luck when I opened it up and attached the piezo right to the plastic body on the inside that contains the reeds. You still get some stray noise but it's better. You can also EQ some of this out.

The Hammond excels in the amplified context. The mic sounds very good, though it's by no means immune to feedback. Single notes are smoky sounding and chords get very distorted. The extended range again comes in handy, as does the on-board volume control. Just lately I've started thinking about making a slip to go over the mic end of the board to perhaps provide some dampening to help control feedback even more. We'll see.

My friend's cheapie does pretty well amplified, more on par with the MyLodica. It's a little hard to amplify but it'll get you in the ballpark.

A few other considerations - the Hammond is very expensive new, and I don't know if I'd pay what they are asking. But I got one used for $250 on ebay, and it was definitely worth that. The reeds are a tad out of tune (it's not really an issue for single notes, but certain intervals beat pretty badly). But as it turns out Hammond will tune and/or replace the reeds for free (you pay shipping both ways). So Hammond seem to offer good support, though I haven't tried it yet.

Also, I haven't tried the Hammond 44HP, but FWIW I wouldn't want a brassier sound than the regular 44. The extra loudness might help in an amplified context though.

If you can't afford one of the more expensive ones I wouldn't sweat it. The cheaper ones can get you close, and you can always try tweaking the eq to shape up the amplified sound.


Edited by zoooombiex (04/05/12 12:10 PM)

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#2401524 - 04/05/12 12:37 PM Re: Melodica? [Re: zoooombiex]
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Hohner makes a good one too. I have a $100 Yamaha melodica

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