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#2147990 - 12/28/09 11:02 AM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: picker]
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I don't know what it is, but it looks cool.

I don't like active electronics myself. So if it was mine I would change all that out, but not on a borrowed instrument of course, well anyways it looks cool.
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#2147999 - 12/28/09 11:27 AM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: desertbluesman]
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Looks like something that came outta my head... :lol:
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#2148011 - 12/28/09 12:15 PM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: The Geoff]
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Originally Posted By: GeoffB
Originally Posted By: 02R96
If it were me, I would replace all of the electronics (pickups, pots, wiring etc) with modern parts. Then either replace the hardware (if corroded) or buff out any tarnish. Then polish the wood to a high luster.

Even though the control and switch arrangement seems kind of strange, I think it has a lot of potential.


Ripping out & replacing hardware is the very last thing I'd be doing at the moment - if it turns out you have a closet classic here, then any value would have been ruined.

As for the triple screw mounting, Ibanez did this at one time - see my Ibanez Studio ST-105:



You'll also find Schaller pups/mounting rings like this, but the spacing between the 2 screws was/is less than in the Ibanez models.

I'm 90% sure it's Matsumoku, but I'll forward this to someone who knows more about Japcrap than me.

By the way, I think it's CAMAS and the 'S' has been stylised because of the font.

Still can't find anything about it though!

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#2148057 - 12/28/09 03:56 PM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: p90jr]
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Originally Posted By: p90jr
Originally Posted By: GeoffB
Originally Posted By: 02R96
If it were me, I would replace all of the electronics (pickups, pots, wiring etc) with modern parts. Then either replace the hardware (if corroded) or buff out any tarnish. Then polish the wood to a high luster.

Even though the control and switch arrangement seems kind of strange, I think it has a lot of potential.


Ripping out & replacing hardware is the very last thing I'd be doing at the moment - if it turns out you have a closet classic here, then any value would have been ruined.

As for the triple screw mounting, Ibanez did this at one time - see my Ibanez Studio ST-105:



You'll also find Schaller pups/mounting rings like this, but the spacing between the 2 screws was/is less than in the Ibanez models.

I'm 90% sure it's Matsumoku, but I'll forward this to someone who knows more about Japcrap than me.

By the way, I think it's CAMAS and the 'S' has been stylised because of the font.

Still can't find anything about it though!

G.


These Ibanez guitars are gems. A few friends have them, and they sound great... and I saw hundreds of people play them and sund great back in the day. Still had cheap when they pop up, too. The kids just don't know...


Quite honestly, I'd lay this against any solid guitar made between 1976 & 86, and it'll be better than most and nearly as good as some.

G.
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#2148080 - 12/28/09 04:49 PM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: Boggs]
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Looks like something that came outta my head... :lol:


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#2148081 - 12/28/09 04:52 PM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: picker]
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I had a neck width problem going from the Strat to the Taylor T5 but it didn't take long to get used to the wider neck on the T5, now when I go back to the Strat it feels natural when playing either one, however I'm planning on going to heavier 11-49 strings on the Strat now that I'm used to them on the T5...so, just playing the Camaz/Camas more will get you over the wider neck feel...and, I agree with the wider neck making it easier for finger style too...though I use a hybrid pick & fingers style...
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#2148086 - 12/28/09 05:08 PM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: picker]
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I think I'm going up a gauge in string thickness on the Camas. The nines I put on it seem a bit wimpy. And, if I do use it for slide, heavier strings support the slide better. It would make a great slide guitar; the frets are all easy to access with a slide, it has a stable tailpiece, and it has a pretty wide variety of tones.

I think it's a cool axe, regardless of it's origin.
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#2148103 - 12/28/09 06:04 PM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: picker]
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Originally Posted By: picker
I think it's a cool axe, regardless of it's origin.


I think so, too.
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#2148297 - 12/29/09 10:36 AM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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Originally Posted By: Caevan O'Shite
Originally Posted By: picker
I think it's a cool axe, regardless of it's origin.


I think so, too.


Ditto...
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#2148323 - 12/29/09 11:40 AM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: picker]
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i think the brand name is camac, i own for years a superstrat with spacer made by camac on the headstock.
i guess they used the neck of a deacent guitar for a homebrew body, the back is very rough, not smooth at all, but the neck is excellent and has an ebony fretboard, that's not a common thing on a cheapo.
the guitar of the TS has a lot of matsumoku trades, the used knobs are identical to those westone often used.
this makes SLM also a possible candidate for this guitars builder, they had a joint venture with matsumoku.
the pickuprings are also very typical, i've seen a few hohners and corts with this pickuprings,love this one thought that't third cutaway gives him also an el maya look (EM series)
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#2148368 - 12/29/09 01:06 PM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: wietse]
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Camac makes sense, looking at that headstock-logo again...
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#2148378 - 12/29/09 01:54 PM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: wietse]
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http://www.brandoniguitars.co.uk/product/camac_lg.jpg

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Just trolled around google for a while. Interesting that there is a Camac electric harp/pan pipe maker in France.
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#2148389 - 12/29/09 02:23 PM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: Bill@Welcome Home Studios]
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Ahah! Yeah, Bill, that headstock on that bass looks awfully similar to that of picker's guitar, as does the "butcher-block" laminated, through-neck construction with "body-wings":



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#2148402 - 12/29/09 02:57 PM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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Looks *very* like a slightly re-designed Westone Thunder I.



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#2148432 - 12/29/09 05:00 PM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: picker]
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I think this is a case for the well-connected folks at GPlayer HQ.
I'd contact them (specifically whoever is currently on Pawnshop Prize/Vintage Gear duty) & see what they can find out.

There is a Camac Co. in France but as far as I can tell, they currently make harps, though they also distribute guitars.

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#2148435 - 12/29/09 05:08 PM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: d]
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I think this is a case for the well-connected folks at GPlayer HQ.
I'd contact them (specifically whoever is currently on Pawnshop Prize/Vintage Gear duty) & see what they can find out.


Good idea.
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#2148439 - 12/29/09 05:16 PM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: picker]
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Alternately you could check back issues for some of the regional stores that have been cited in those features & contact them to see if it helps.
FWIW, that's a nice looking guitar.
It's hard to imagine that someone made only one, or very few, of them...but ya never know.
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#2148449 - 12/29/09 06:35 PM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: d]
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Well, Geoff has been on it all along, and pointed the way.
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#2148725 - 12/30/09 03:55 PM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: Bill@Welcome Home Studios]
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Originally Posted By: Bill@Welcome Home Studios
Well, Geoff has been on it all along, and pointed the way.


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#2148907 - 12/31/09 10:50 AM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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Originally Posted By: Caevan O'Shite
Camac makes sense, looking at that headstock-logo again...


+1
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#2158435 - 01/28/10 10:45 AM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: Larryz]
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#2158464 - 01/28/10 11:34 AM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: The Geoff]
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Wow, strange guitars really get you folks going!
Here's how I would narrow it down, IMHO. Take it to someone who really, really knows world woods. If it is older, than chances are that the woods would more likely be local, or at least regional to where it was made. So if it is Japanese, the woods probably came from somewhere in that region because they still had enough trees back then. There are subtle differences that I cannot even tell, (after 30 + years of building furniture) in say, some mahoganies from around the world. A world class wood guy would pin the species.
Japanese ash and American ash have differences due to soil, climate, etc.
Start there, follow up with regional manufacturers that fit the approximate timeframe of the age of the pots, wiring, etc. Those two items should get you very close. See what manufacturers of the region and time were making and try and ID it. I would essentially ignore the name Camas/Camaz, whatever. That could have been added/changed at any time.
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#2266264 - 01/24/11 05:07 PM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: picker]
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Hello all, after extensive googling to try and find out info about my guitar I found my way here!





I was told this was handmade for someone in the 60s, who subsequently died in the 70s, then it was then bought in London on Dean Street by the guy who sold it to me...pretty unique! It's actually really playable, I was just looking for a cheap bass and managed to find this, anyone got any more ideas about who couldve have made these guitars? Seems mine is very very different from the first one, though there is a family resemblance...

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#2266651 - 01/25/11 03:13 PM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: KYorkshire]
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Welcome aboard KYorkshire and best of luck with your research, hopefully this old thread will help...
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#2266657 - 01/25/11 03:28 PM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: KYorkshire]
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KYorkshire- welcome to the GPF!

What a funky, cool, and VERY unusual bass... ehr, guitar... ehr... thu cool How does she sound and play, on either neck? Does it ever present feedback problems? How does it balance on a strap? I bet she's real neck-heavy!
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#2267056 - 01/26/11 01:59 PM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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My mind is boggled...both by that guitar & the continued life of this thread.
To spin Jimi a bit--- 'Scuse me while I...go play "Synchronicity"...
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#2949801 - 09/24/18 12:21 PM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: d]
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https://www.guitar-list.com/brands/camac [url=https://www.guitar-list.com/brands/camac][/url]

Camac identified at last


Edited by picker (09/24/18 12:23 PM)
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#2949906 - 09/24/18 07:39 PM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: picker]
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Cool! Case closed...glad you finally found your answer Picker! thu
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#2950112 - 09/26/18 01:56 AM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: Larryz]
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FFS-here I was trying to figure out where I had seen that guitar before. It was this thread hitt
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#2950122 - 09/26/18 04:32 AM Re: Okay guys, what is it? [Re: skipclone 1]
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