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#2136134 - 11/20/09 01:13 PM Re: HAMMOND XK1 DOES IT NEED A LESLIE? [Re: Road Apple]
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Originally Posted By: Road Apple
"When using the 8 pin cable the left 1/4" output has the digital Leslie and the right 1/4" output has a non-digital Leslied signal."

I understood that when I use the 8 pin on the XK1 that the signal from the 1/4" plugs are bypassed. Am I incorrect?

I totally agree with less mics, better.



The left output (and left channel in the headphones) has the digital Leslie if the 8 pin cable is used. See pg. 13 #'s 40 & 41. I think Hammond did this just for the purpose of sending the digital Leslie to the PA or to have extra Leslies without having to mic one. The right channel can be sent to a stationary amp to be used as a tone cabinet.

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#2136293 - 11/21/09 06:17 AM Re: HAMMOND XK1 DOES IT NEED A LESLIE? [Re: JMcS]
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[/quote] The left output (and left channel in the headphones) has the digital Leslie if the 8 pin cable is used. See pg. 13 #'s 40 & 41. I think Hammond did this just for the purpose of sending the digital Leslie to the PA or to have extra Leslies without having to mic one. The right channel can be sent to a stationary amp to be used as a tone cabinet.[/quote]

Thanks for the feedback! Why do these things have to be so complicated?
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#2136309 - 11/21/09 07:07 AM Re: HAMMOND XK1 DOES IT NEED A LESLIE? [Re: Road Apple]
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Originally Posted By: Road Apple
Originally Posted By: JMcS
The left output (and left channel in the headphones) has the digital Leslie if the 8 pin cable is used. See pg. 13 #'s 40 & 41. I think Hammond did this just for the purpose of sending the digital Leslie to the PA or to have extra Leslies without having to mic one. The right channel can be sent to a stationary amp to be used as a tone cabinet.


Thanks for the feedback! Why do these things have to be so complicated?


So that you feel a great sense of accomplishment when you use all the features to their fullest. thu

The XK-3c has a stationary speaker (PR-40) simulation as one of it's digital Leslie options. It sounds pretty nice when used along with a 3300.


Edited by JMcS (11/21/09 07:11 AM)
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#2136355 - 11/21/09 10:34 AM Re: HAMMOND XK1 DOES IT NEED A LESLIE? [Re: JMcS]
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JMcS:

I'm having a small problem with my XK1. Since you seem to be very knowledgeable of this unit, perhaps you can tell me if its me or the unit acting this way.

When going from play button(presets) to menu button(drawbar settings) the organ continues to have the sound of the previous preset until I work the drawbars in and out a couple of times.
Then it will perform as a "manual system" as I call it.

Is this normal? I have emailed Hammond with no response.
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#2136394 - 11/21/09 12:48 PM Re: HAMMOND XK1 DOES IT NEED A LESLIE? [Re: Road Apple]
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I have an XM-2 so there are many similarities. I'm not sure I understand what you are doing. If you have the XK-1 in play mode with one of the presets selected, pressing the menu button shouldn't change anything other than the menu screen shows up. If you do this while playing the selected preset should remain active. The drawbars should work when the menu is active.

I held some notes and switched presets and the tone and drawbar settings changed. I also pressed the menu button and scrolled up through the menu pages while the notes were held and they continued to play. Alternating between the menu and play buttons also left the notes playing.

You shouldn't have to press the menu button to get the drawbars to change.

If you can list the sequence of buttons and drawbars etc. that you press and move I'll try to duplicate it.

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#2136814 - 11/23/09 07:27 AM Re: HAMMOND XK1 DOES IT NEED A LESLIE? [Re: JMcS]
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Press play and select any preset to play. Try the preset to confirm the sound for comparison. Now press menu and I think the menu option is no 1(drawbars, I'm not at the keyboard to see the exact wording). You should now be at the screen for manual drawbar playing. Press a key to see if the preset sound is still engaged. At this point I have to work the drawbars in and out to get mine to switch off of the preset sound. I am thinking that it wasn't this way when I first bought it.
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#2136824 - 11/23/09 07:51 AM Re: HAMMOND XK1 DOES IT NEED A LESLIE? [Re: Road Apple]
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You shouldn't have to press the menu button and bring up the drawbar screen to use the drawbars. That screen would get you to the menu settings to select a different tonewheel type. Once you press a preset the drawbar settings will change to the saved settings however moving a drawbar will change that drawbar's tone. Make sure the drawbar button/LED for the manual you want to change is selected. If all three LED's are off you can move the drawbars to where you want them without the sound changing until you press the manual you want them to change. (See pg. 36) Pressing and holding a preset for a second will call up all the parameters for that preset but change the drawbar positions to match the current positions of the actual drawbars.

The drawbars should always be "live" and change the tone when moved whether a particular preset or the "Adjust Preset" button is selected.

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#2136887 - 11/23/09 10:15 AM Re: HAMMOND XK1 DOES IT NEED A LESLIE? [Re: JMcS]
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Thanks for the feedback.
I'll give it a try.

I still say these things are far too complicated for some of us.
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#2136901 - 11/23/09 11:02 AM Re: HAMMOND XK1 DOES IT NEED A LESLIE? [Re: Road Apple]
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Originally Posted By: Road Apple
JMcS:

I'm having a small problem with my XK1. Since you seem to be very knowledgeable of this unit, perhaps you can tell me if its me or the unit acting this way.

When going from play button(presets) to menu button(drawbar settings) the organ continues to have the sound of the previous preset until I work the drawbars in and out a couple of times.
Then it will perform as a "manual system" as I call it.

Is this normal? I have emailed Hammond with no response.

The reason you have are to having to pull the drawbars in and out to get them to work is you have to run it past the position, that it is set at in the preset, before it will change. So if the preset has a drawbar set at 8 it will not change until it you pull it out to 8.
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#2136906 - 11/23/09 11:19 AM Re: HAMMOND XK1 DOES IT NEED A LESLIE? [Re: clpete]
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I am not an XK1 user, but there was a setting on its grandfather, the XB2 where you could "override" the saved drawbar presets in favor of the drawbars always being live. This same feature existed on the XK2 and also the Korg CX-3. I would only change patches to get different levels of overdrive and reverb, but otherwise what I'd see on the drawbars is always what I would hear. Toggling between a drawbar preset and live drawbars will give you the experience of needing to "catch" the actual setting before it changes.

Regards,
Eric
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#2136909 - 11/23/09 11:25 AM Re: HAMMOND XK1 DOES IT NEED A LESLIE? [Re: eric]
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The XK-Series has a set of "preset load" parameters that allow you to select which parts of saved presets are loaded and which remain as they are currently set. Also, pressing and holding a preset key or button will call up the preset's changes but revert the drawbars to their current position.

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