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#2131037 - 11/03/09 08:49 AM Re: Nice drawbar technique [Re: Tusker]
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You can do quick tonal changes with a B3 using the presets. It's been done. Its even easier on the new ones since you don't have to actually re-wire a matrix in the back to set the presets! smile

I read an interview with Medeski once where he urged would-be organ players to fully understand how each drawbar changes the sound. Once you do that, he said, you could sculpt anything you wanted.

He knows exactly what he's doing.



Edited by B3-er (11/03/09 08:49 AM)
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#2131207 - 11/03/09 04:28 PM Re: Nice drawbar technique [Re: B3-er]
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Glad everybody liked the video.

How's he switching the Leslie? I see the half moon switch but there's times when the speed changes and he's got both hands on the organ. He makes some gestures that look like he might be switching with his forearm or elbow, but it doesn't appear to me that he'd be able to reach it. Maybe he's using a foot switch?

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#2131217 - 11/03/09 05:07 PM Re: Nice drawbar technique [Re: RichieP_MechE]
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Wow! Im just now discovering medeski martin and wood... Youtube stuff is great
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#2131411 - 11/04/09 10:55 AM Re: Nice drawbar technique [Re: Mogut]
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Finally got around to watching this video. Killing! I enjoy his creativity and musicality, definitely all about the moment.

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#2131449 - 11/04/09 01:50 PM Re: Nice drawbar technique [Re: RichieP_MechE]
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I sometimes use the forearm, or if playing in the lowest octave, the palm of the hand.
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#2131578 - 11/05/09 03:29 AM Re: Nice drawbar technique [Re: Tusker]
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I thought I would enlarge on these comments, because they are so easily misunderstood.

Originally Posted By: Tusker
Personally, I think those movements aren't conscious ... they are in muscle memory ... much as velocity control is for a pianist. It's really nice to see someone playing in that zone.


Medeski rocks. I like that his approach to tonal control is not studied, but integrated into his personality. I also love that he is doing 2-3 levels of musical development at the same time in his solo. (tonal change, call and answer, etc.) Even with other instruments, he subsumes technique into the flow of the moment.

Originally Posted By: Tusker
You can do drawbar stuff on the electro that is impossible on a B3. (The rhythmic clicking thing would be similar to Josef Z hitting the octave +- buttons, or Tony B hitting the Prophet 5 preset buttons with one hand while playing with the other.)


I can't offhand think of something the electro interface makes easier than the B3 (maybe it's pulling 8, 2&2/3 and 1&3/5 out while pushing 4 and 2 lol, maybe it's the rhythmic aspect). But someone will invent something.

I am trying to encourage people with electros to find what uniquely works on their instrument. Just as the B3 players who were given something different from a pipe organ ... did.

Somebody compared this to an electric guitar, which has precious little tonal control inside it after the note is struck ... yet has developed an evocative idiom and techniques, many of which use external devices.

Treat your instrument (any instrument) as though it has a unique purpose. Only then can you find it's purpose.

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#2131808 - 11/05/09 03:24 PM Re: Nice drawbar technique [Re: B3Nut]
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Wow I've never heard of these guys but that was fantastic!

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#2131825 - 11/05/09 04:17 PM Re: Nice drawbar technique [Re: Marillion]
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Originally Posted By: Marillion
Wow I've never heard of these guys but that was fantastic!
Me either.... how lucky are we to be discovering them for the first time...
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