#2127776 - 10/23/09 08:25 AM
Help and Advice on a new product please?
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Hi everyone, we make a pretty cool guitar hanger and I could do with some feedback. The website is here www.wiamusic.com  They are made from water clear polycarbonate and are incredibly strong the snap lock system means the guitar can't fall out and will hang at any angle on walls and even the ceiling. I would appreciate any advice you can give as we're a new company in early development. The hangers cause no stress to the neck, are really easy to install and are barely visible. If you could take a look and let me know that what you think would be great Thanks! Woodie
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#2127816 - 10/23/09 09:51 AM
Re: Help and Advice on a new product please?
[Re: LeftyBlues]
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(Hmn; a little spammy, but an honest, friendly, good natured request for input, and it is a cool guitar-related product...)
Need to be anchored in a stud, or just good solid drywall or the like?
Compatible with Dunlop Straploks, Scaller Strap Locks, and other strap locking devices?
Is instrument placement and removal fairly quick? Is a tool involved? If so, perhaps a quick-release system would be better for people who play guitars, as opposed to just displaying them...
Adjustable for various guitars, or are their specific models?
How much contact is made with the surface of the guitar, the finish?
Is it GUARANTEED 100% safe for nitrocellulose-lacquer finishes? "French polish" varnishes?
Maybe you might make a back-lit model, or one with a neon lights that match the profiles of specific makes and models?
(If you use my quick-release, backlit and/or neon ideas, throw me a bone, a good one, will ya? Strictly straight-up, verbal, gentelmen's honor...)
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#2127855 - 10/23/09 11:24 AM
Re: Help and Advice on a new product please?
[Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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May be useful for guitar stores and convention booths, but I put my guitars in the case when not in use...keeps the dust down...
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#2128654 - 10/26/09 09:02 AM
Re: Help and Advice on a new product please?
[Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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Firstly, sorry I haven't replied in a few days but....
I've been asking people for genuine feedback and ideas on this product. We're just two lads making hangers in an office in England NOT a massive accessories company running millions off in China. The Singapore Music Forum gave us some great ideas for the website, and we made those changes straight away, a guy on the Gibson forum is an engineer has taken a product and is currently trying to break it, so we can have a proper report on it. One of the lads on the Epiphone forum gave us some tips on getting to NAMM next year and some press ideas, and most others gave us feedback, positive or negative, which we have taken on board and worked with. We are looking for distribution deals to get the hangers into stores and selling online is not our main objective. Getting the product right so it's the best way to display your guitar IS our main objective. We have paid for advertising next month in some major mags so I don't need to spam websites. I am aware that there's noone on here suggesting that I'm spamming but I needed the rant because I'm banned from just about everywhere else (which is soul destroying). So firstly, thanks for not banning me, secondly thanks for the input.
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#2128663 - 10/26/09 09:15 AM
Re: Help and Advice on a new product please?
[Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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(Hmn; a little spammy, but an honest, friendly, good natured request for input, and it is a cool guitar-related product...)
Need to be anchored in a stud, or just good solid drywall or the like?
Compatible with Dunlop Straploks, Scaller Strap Locks, and other strap locking devices?
Is instrument placement and removal fairly quick? Is a tool involved? If so, perhaps a quick-release system would be better for people who play guitars, as opposed to just displaying them...
Adjustable for various guitars, or are their specific models?
How much contact is made with the surface of the guitar, the finish?
Is it GUARANTEED 100% safe for nitrocellulose-lacquer finishes? "French polish" varnishes?
Maybe you might make a back-lit model, or one with a neon lights that match the profiles of specific makes and models?
(If you use my quick-release, backlit and/or neon ideas, throw me a bone, a good one, will ya? Strictly straight-up, verbal, gentelmen's honor...) Thanks mate for these.... Here we go... We use Rawl Plug Uno with Inch and a half Stainless Steel screws....The Rawl Plug fans out when screwed into Drywall and ancors really solid. Everytime I mention to Scott about this he loses his temper with me and says 'Look how hard to you want me to swing on this Guitar!' They wont budge and are great for solid and drywall. Yeah they are fine with all strap locks and even some installed straps (which I hate) Yip its straight in and straight out, the top bracket flexes a little away from the guitar and it just lifts out easily, then same for back in, and makes an audible 'click' There are 3 models: standard for staight headstock/side mounted buttons. Vert: For angled headstocks (Les Paul types) and GS: For back mounted strap buttons (Gibson SG) NO contact at all with the guitar except in the vertical position. In the upright position we supply a little leather washer to slip over the strap button. Poly Carbonate doesnt react with Nitro so is 100% safe...and doesn't touch it anyway  We are (thanks to a suggestion like yours) looking at an led (with remote on off) for the hanger, and also some coloured hangers, initially we wanted them to be invisible, but peoples reactions on the forums have made us think twice about this. Gentlemans honour code is recorded sir and THANKYOU for your response! Why have none of you guys commented on the hot chick in the pictures yet  W
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#2128664 - 10/26/09 09:17 AM
Re: Help and Advice on a new product please?
[Re: Smokestack71]
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Try making contact with major distributors like St Louis Music and Eddie Toporeks Music Corp. These companies sell to the smaller stores and chains. Not as hard a nut to crack as Guitar Center, and once they've picked up the line and you've got some sales under your belt, GC will become interested.
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#2128668 - 10/26/09 09:34 AM
Re: Help and Advice on a new product please?
[Re: Bill@Welcome Home Studios]
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Now that's what I'm talking about!!! Thanks, hunting out emails now!!!!!
Cheers!
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#2128676 - 10/26/09 10:00 AM
Re: Help and Advice on a new product please?
[Re: Smokestack71]
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Thanks Bill, I have emailed both companies.
Great advice!
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#2128692 - 10/26/09 10:22 AM
Re: Help and Advice on a new product please?
[Re: Smokestack71]
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I currently hang my guitars on my wall using the "regular" guitar hanger. I don't have anything to add to the great ideas already shared but I'd be very interested in using your product.
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#2128713 - 10/26/09 11:28 AM
Re: Help and Advice on a new product please?
[Re: G. A. Donis]
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If I were a rich collector(iddy biddy biddy...aw, forget it) and wanted to display my many rare and expensive guitars on the walls of my palatial mansion, I'd be very interested. Kudos to you for a great idea. But( start the sad background music here), I'm a poor-but-honest twit, the ashamed owner of merely a meager few ragged and threadbare instruments, and I live in a tiny rented apartment whose cruel and oppressive owner doesn't like things being sunk into his drywall. So, your product, nice as it is, doesn't hold much interest for me, hence my reluctance to reply. Pardon my sob story... 
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#2128763 - 10/26/09 02:24 PM
Re: Help and Advice on a new product please?
[Re: Smokestack71]
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How much would it cost to have her hold the guitar up 24/7? Interesting product but as someone has said, I currently don't live in a spot where I could use them. That and none of my instruments are deserving of being put on display  I will say, the idea of a backlight is a neat idea to enhance the aesthetic and presentation. The only thing I could ask is what about acoustic models, Ovation and other "bowl" modeled guitars, and semi/full hollow bodies? Or even bass guitars? Do you have parts to accomodate those? Good luck with your product though! Maybe years down the road I can have something to display.
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#2128797 - 10/26/09 04:50 PM
Re: Help and Advice on a new product please?
[Re: theTragicRich]
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How much would it cost to have her hold the guitar up 24/7? Hiiiiii... I'm a '69 Lester, ehr, Les Paul...
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#2128833 - 10/26/09 07:18 PM
Re: Help and Advice on a new product please?
[Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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Keep the hot chick in the ads she helps us focus in on your ad when it's not a spiked out tatoo'ed dude like all of the others....how about putting the guitar in a fancy glass & wood cabinet using your hangers?
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#2129160 - 10/27/09 10:34 PM
Re: Help and Advice on a new product please?
[Re: Larryz]
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Woodie, I like it! But then again, I'm a gadget-y kind of guy as it is.  Here's a cool suggestion - Paint a life sized mural of your favorite guitar player (or a life size poster picture of yourself) on the wall. Put the hangers in the appropriate place, and you can have the guitar appear to in the picture's/painting's hands, or on a strap! The guitar would make the painting "pop" in 3D!
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#2129175 - 10/28/09 03:42 AM
Re: Help and Advice on a new product please?
[Re: JMaserati]
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Good idea, JMaserati! May I run with it a little further? Hmmnn, sounds like maybe a deal could be struck with the makers of those "Fathead" clingy/non-adhesive wall graphics, to make re-usable guitar-hero pics to display behind your guitar hangers... "Jimi" floating on the ceiling wearing your Strat might appeal to some people! Fathead Official Site
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Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do?
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#2129441 - 10/28/09 03:50 PM
Re: Help and Advice on a new product please?
[Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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Looks cool. I never have my guitars on display however. They are always kept in their cases in a closet. My clothes suffer from no place to live but the guitars are snug as a bug in a rug.
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#2129683 - 10/29/09 10:49 AM
Re: Help and Advice on a new product please?
[Re: desertbluesman]
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Looks cool. I never have my guitars on display however. They are always kept in their cases in a closet. My clothes suffer from no place to live but the guitars are snug as a bug in a rug. +1...right on.
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