#2124816 - 10/15/09 12:12 AM
JOIN THE GUITAR PLAYER REDESIGN TEAM
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Hi gang...
The last redesigns of GP were in 2004 (the big one) and then 2006 (refinements), so it's time to slap some new paint on the puppy again, and I'd like to invite all interested forum members to join the editors in forging the mag's next evolution.
I'll post notes up here from time-to-time regarding what stages we are in, and what changes we are considering.
I also want to encourage forum members to suggest changes.
In addition, we want to hear your thoughts on where we're blowing it. We appreciate it when readers tell us what they LIKE about the magazine (thanks), but, at this time, we are more interested in what we are doing wrong, than what we may be doing right.
In fact, let's start this collaborative process on that point...
Please post your list of the "TOP FIVE THINGS THAT GP SUCKS AT" right here.
I'll share the criticisms with the staff, and we'll start working on "not sucking."
Thanks tons for your help in this endeavor.
We're planning to have mockups of the "new" GP ready by Winter NAMM in January 2010, and a fully revamped magazine ready to rock soon after.
All the Best, Mike
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#2124821 - 10/15/09 02:20 AM
Re: JOIN THE GUITAR PLAYER REDESIGN TEAM
[Re: Editor Boy]
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1) I like that you guys cover the internet hordes, but I don't think you do enough. A column containing practical suggestions for recording/presenting your stuff online: what gear, tips for improving vid/sound quality, maybe even what sites are best for online commercial release would be a gift.
In addition, I just went to a Entertainment Law CLE course in Austin to maintain my law license, and many of the speakers were discussing how to leverage your songs- even if you're unsigned- by exploring all kinds of new outlets, like local computer game companies.
To sum up, I guess I'm looking for columns detailing the business side of how to transition from an amateur artist to a professional one. Everyone has heard the gospel of practice, practice, practice, especially with other musicians, but few words have been directed at performers detailing how to actually become better businessmen, even at the most rudimentary levels.
2) The sheet music is always welcome, but it might be kind of cool to have the songs related in some way. Say...all of the songs are by the same artist, of the same genre, their subject matter is all similar, or even exhibit increasing levels of difficulty covering a certain bit of theory (like a certain scale or chord progression, a particular alternative tuning, or an unusual time sig).
3) In a similar vein, its nice that you publish sheet music, but its almost universally well-known stuff. Linking 1 and 2 above, it might be interesting to publish the sheet music for some of the lesser-known but quality songs or even unsigned bands that you guys discover...perhaps by means of an annual contest or just an Editor's pick.
4) Its great that you guys cover gear, but again, you focus primarily on the major manufacturers (except boutique amps and pedals). Where is the love for the luthiers and small-run makers? I know you guys hit the various guitar shows and I know that luthiers do as well (I met Jon Kammerer at the Dallas Guitar Show, and now own 3 of his guitars)- surely you've seen some stuff that your readers would love to see and maybe even own. A great review of a Fender might boost the company's sales 1%, but a luthier might see a 5-fold increase in sales or more.
5) Deeper exploration of ALL the genres. Christian rock isn't just Stryper, its Curtis Stephan (Razed Records) as well. Pop & techno aren't devoid of guitarists. And when was the last time you covered a young Classical guitarist? Segovia's been dead a while, and the Romero brothers aren't getting any younger.
Edited by Dannyalcatraz (10/15/09 02:23 AM)
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#2124944 - 10/15/09 10:09 AM
Re: JOIN THE GUITAR PLAYER REDESIGN TEAM
[Re: Editor Boy]
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Apologies- I just realized I confused certain aspects of your mag with those of another- you guys don't regularly post huge chunks of sheet music. That's what I get for posting while sleep-deprived.
The points, however, stand.
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#2124954 - 10/15/09 10:43 AM
Re: JOIN THE GUITAR PLAYER REDESIGN TEAM
[Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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Registered: 06/09/03
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I will have to admit that after reading GP for 30 years that I let my subsrcibtion lapse last year. The quality of the magazine is as good as ever, but I found that instead of immediately sitting down to read it cover to cover the moment I got it, I had a stack from a year unread.
It's more a matter of my tastes changing than anything you have done wrong. I am most interested in classical, and even though you will occasionally have a good article, there isn't much coverage there. I have to say that I was exposed to classical and jazz guitar largely through GP in the late 70's, even if there wasn't an dedicated article, many of my rock heroes would mention unknown greats from other styles and that tweeked my interest.
I don't think GP sucks, but there are things that could be improved. A lot of the one page articles seem like little more than promotional bios, where you quickly go throught the style and equipment used and show a nice big picture. I get almost no information out of these and would rather have a more in depth interview/ article about what these artists are doing for guitar playing. It seems a little shallow to say you cover and present new music when there is so little information there. Keep the little blurbs in the record review section, but give us some groundbreaking artists with something to say.
I know it must be hard to present our heroes from the past who are still active, finding a way to acknowledge their great early work, and to see how they have changed and grown over the years. Case in point, I am reading the through the July 2008 Al Dimeola article (shows how far behind I am), and I think it shows how he is frustrated that the media makes it hard for an artist to grow. I am not blaming GP here, but since it seems that the big names from the past sell well, really focus in on what the artist is doing now, not 20 years ago.
Dannyalcatraz makes a good point that it would be good to have more articles on how to promote yourself over the internet, and more varied coverage of artists and the sites that they are using. I think we all know that that is the future of music. You have done some work there but could do more.
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#2124961 - 10/15/09 10:57 AM
Re: JOIN THE GUITAR PLAYER REDESIGN TEAM
[Re: Gruupi]
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send me a couple of issues, and we'll talk about it!
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#2124997 - 10/15/09 12:01 PM
Re: JOIN THE GUITAR PLAYER REDESIGN TEAM
[Re: Gruupi]
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Dannyalcatraz makes a good point that it would be good to have more articles on how to promote yourself over the internet, and more varied coverage of artists and the sites that they are using. I think we all know that that is the future of music. You have done some work there but could do more. Thanks! But I'm also talking about the full spectrum of stuff: - how to get your music into video games- even or especially those produced in some of the up & coming video game design programs popping up in colleges, universities and tech schools,
- how to get your music onto ringtone sites, including how to make your music into a ringtone,
- how to get your music into locally produced TV shows, movies or commercials
- how to get your music into major TV shows, movies and commercials
- basic marketing techniques,
- identifying developing markets
- identifying common attributes of the business techniques of successful artists
- cautionary tales
Edited by Dannyalcatraz (10/15/09 12:03 PM)
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#2125015 - 10/15/09 12:51 PM
Re: JOIN THE GUITAR PLAYER REDESIGN TEAM
[Re: Editor Boy]
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Registered: 05/22/09
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My top 5 things that GP sucks at:
1. Tiny, content-light articles/interviews with players. The magazine used to go into such amazing depth. You could tell that the interviewer had really done his homework. Nowadays the cover artist is usually treated properly, but most everybody else gets superficial treatment. I know you guys have economic considerations with loading so much content into a paper mag, so maybe you could post a lot more supplementary material on the web site for your paid subscribers (like me).
2. I still get the impression that you avoid reviewing the under-performing products. I've heard the rationale: We don't want to waste space on stuff that sucks. But your readers need to know about the stuff that sucks as much as the stuff that rocks. "Play better, sound better" is just an empty platitude, unless you take that on.
3. I hate to say it, but I think you guys lack much of an editorial identity. I look back on my 20+ year collection of GP magazines (yep, I keep 'em all) and I can see a strong editorial point of view reflected in the magazine's content and writing under its various editors. But not so much anymore. I wish you guys could sometimes be a little more challenging, critiquing, and maybe a bit irreverent.
4. Sometimes I roll my eyes at how shameless Molenda is about promoting himself. Pictures of himself with this or that artist, constantly reminding readers about his punk credentials, calling himself "Editor Boy" in faux self-deprecation, and so on. Oh, and the incredibly stretched metaphors! We get it, man, you're cool. Move on, the magazine isn't about you.
5. Seems like guitarplayertv is gone, so maybe this doesn't apply anymore, but I hated being referred by the magazine to content on guitarplayertv and have it not be there! I stopped going there. Keep it up to date, or don't bother.
D7
Edited by Dumeril Seven (10/15/09 12:58 PM)
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#2125041 - 10/15/09 02:14 PM
Re: JOIN THE GUITAR PLAYER REDESIGN TEAM
[Re: Dumeril Seven]
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I'm going to do this piecemeal as items pop into my head.
The first thing that comes to mind (resulting from your recent post about the upcoming January issue) is that the magazine is not the best vehicle for reiews. Move those to the website. There is too-much of a lag between product release and magazine print date.
I agree with the previous post about the articles not having much depth these days. This really hit home with the recent issue with all of the Les Paul content. The LP articles were all excellent. Seemed like a big contrast to most other articles. I really appreciated them.
Here's somethinG I hope you will keep. I really like the page of commentary on the "unknowns" who have submitted internet links. It's great opportunity to get some tips on unfamiliar music and a great avenue of promotion for the musicians.
More later as they come to mind.
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#2125073 - 10/15/09 03:59 PM
Re: JOIN THE GUITAR PLAYER REDESIGN TEAM
[Re: Editor Boy]
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Multimedia synergy! I'm still waiting to see a tab in the magazine and be able to go somewhere online and hear it played. lesser mags have been shipping CDs and posting online lessons for years. Seems like your web and print staff don't even talk to each other. It's a waste to go online and see the exact same content as in the magazine. Give us sound!
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#2125103 - 10/15/09 06:44 PM
Re: JOIN THE GUITAR PLAYER REDESIGN TEAM
[Re: JoeZeppy]
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One other thing. I'm sure you're going to get a million people saying "more gear reviews". I disagree. There's plenty of gear reviews already. There's so much more to playing than the hardware! In the big scheme of things, gear is one of the least important aspects and yet we give it so much attention. Lead, and help us be better players, not better consumers!
D7
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#2125104 - 10/15/09 07:03 PM
Re: JOIN THE GUITAR PLAYER REDESIGN TEAM
[Re: Editor Boy]
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DON'T DOOne thing NOT to do. Don't ever just put tab in the magazine without standard notation. Guitar World only prints tab exclusively and it makes their magazine look amateurish. Their average reader only listens to Slayer so it doesn't matter. Your readership has better taste and playing skills! PLEASE DOSound files on the website for examples in the magazine. The British guitar magazines have CDs. Don't be left behind. It's 2009; everything includes (or has access) to audio/visual media. Put videos on YouTube of the product reviews. If it's an amp. let us hear it. Ditto for pedals or rack gear. That poser magazine, Guitar World does it... you can do it better. (That guy, Paul, who demos for GW gets the WORST tones out of anything he plugs into.) I've been reading GP since 1976....LISTEN TO ME!!!  (Thanks!) Carl
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#2125114 - 10/15/09 08:09 PM
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[Re: GuitarPlayerFL]
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I wouldn't mind a column that regularly features smaller name luthiers each month. After finally biting the bullet a couple of years ago on a handmade classical guitar, the difference is incomparable between that and what you could find in a store bought factory instrument. I am sure steel string and other acoustic instruments would have the same level of quality with a good builder.
Even though there are competing acoustic magazines, some of what I said in my earlier post applies here as well. GP used to be more eclectic, I learned so much about all facets of guitar back then. I am not so sure a young player would get the same results these days. You can find lots of information on the web, and I think GP needs to consider that they need some of the same level of eclectism to compete with what is in cyberspace. Hopefully, having somewhat of a trustworthy and well edited opinion would make GP the vehicle of choice for people wanting to learn about guitar.
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#2125117 - 10/15/09 08:16 PM
Re: JOIN THE GUITAR PLAYER REDESIGN TEAM
[Re: GuitarPlayerFL]
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Yep, I'm a subscriber since the 70's myself...with a gap here and there while in the Air Force overseas. * More boutique stuff for sure. * How about a spinoff...like the difference between MTV & VH1 for we old farts?  * New luthier & amp builders section. More later.  Randy
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#2125134 - 10/15/09 10:08 PM
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[Re: Strategery]
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Dear Editor Boy, again you break the sound barrier by asking us what we think and even wanting to know more about what sucks...For the most part, nothing...the Magazine is number 1 in my book and there is no comaprison...I'll list no more than 5 things:
1). Keep doing what you are doing with regard to completing an article on each consecutive page until it's done. I hate having to turn to page (continued on page 173 or whatever) and I love being able to finish one article without having to skip through the magazine to find the last portion of an article...
2). Keep the Editor on task when writing editorials...sometimes he goes off in weird directions forgeting we are interesed in music, guitars, writing, performers, etc...
3). Make it easy to find articles by improving the index in the front section with some short descriptions of what each article contains...
4). More "How to" articles: like how to write songs, lyrics, progressions, etc...
5). Some nice looking women once in a while to sell adds, or at least run a few stories on them...I'm not looking for Playboy stuff, just want to see something besides Mega Death Metal dudes all of the time....
Thanks again, for letting us have a voice, Larryz
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#2125398 - 10/16/09 07:48 PM
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[Re: Larryz]
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1) I like the ideas behind "10 Things You Gotta Do..." and "Master Class" sections, but back in the day there was also a section of five or six regular lessons (e.g. "Terrifying Guitar 101", the Rik Emmett column, etc) that I always looked forward too. Now it seems kind of scattershot...for a couple of months we'll get something on pentatonics, and then for another couple of months we'll get shred-type stuff. I'd like to see a return to the regularly recurring lessons covering a specific genre/style and maybe a general music knowledge lesson, like theory or songwriting or whatever, in addition to the "10 Things..." and Master Class. 2) I generally find "Round-Up" pretty useless as far as gear evaluations go. It seems mostly like a convenient way to tell a manufacturer that, yes, you plugged such-and-such pedal in and jammed for a couple of minutes, wrote about it, and thanks for sending the sample along. Most of the time the reviews all sound the same, too. I'd rather see more of the "Fight Club" style reviews. Many years ago, probably sometime in the early/mid-90s, GP did a review of 30 some odd guitars under $750 or $1000 or something like that. I remember Carvin, Fender and Vester all had guitars reviewed (I remember the Vester because it got panned). It was really well done, I read it over and over again for months and I clearly still remember it well (a similar review was done on Tele style guitars a little bit later). If you can dig into the archives and find that article, I think it's a great model for what good gear reviews look like. It covered each instrument in a concise but in-depth way. I think the current incarnation of "Fight Club" and "Bench Test" captures some of the magic, but I'd really like to see all gear reviews follow that model. By the way, you needn't consider this a plea for more gear reviews...just a different style of gear reviews  3) I like the "Riffs" section, but it's too heavy on filler (I don't really care about "The Joint" in Las Vegas reopening) and could be condensed into a page or two. I'd rather have another "Feature" than four pages of "Riffs." 4) Since "Product Spotlight" is advertising, which helps you guys pay the bills, can we drop "New Gear", which doesn't indicate that it is? The two seem redundant. Since a lot of us are on the Internet and frequent discussion boards (like this one!), we get most of the new gear scoop online. Maybe make "New Gear" and online thing instead of a print thing? That's really it for me! And please note I'm being super-picky.
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#2125432 - 10/16/09 10:56 PM
Re: JOIN THE GUITAR PLAYER REDESIGN TEAM
[Re: trushack]
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Refresh the content for today. Mix the full page color slick copy with product placement more in touch with today's readers and buyers. I think the guitar market has changed considerably. Many player/readers feel they can "out play" many of your featured artists. Also, the "star struck" reader is less of a commodity.
1) More "every man" features about this and that unknown guy or maker. Generate revenue with product placement in the "everyman" segments.
2) Plugs for "off the beaten path" must see artists. I really couldn't give a rats ass about what Carlos Santana thinks or says. As a matter of fact, I'm tired of just about all of them. I'm looking for fresh, unknown, little known masters of techniques and skills that maybe long forgotten or recently overlooked. Classical, bebop, rock, country, swing, etc.
3) Make sure that if you feel compelled to have a contest, the winner isn't a winner buy some measure other than guitar skill. That last contest you had left me feeling cheated by some politically correct double standard. I canceled because of it BTW. I think contests are dangerous for that very reason. You don't have to apply the affirmative action rules in a public contest.
4) More detail in your content about gear. Detail or don't bother. It's "killer" is one of my favorite things to type on this forum because it's ambiguous. I'm not getting paid. If I were, I'd provide as much detail and diligence as is due from a professional reviewer. Reviews for product placement "features" are evident in the lack of detail.
5) Drive web hits to multimedia content and links from the mag. Get better, current and timely multimedia content and start racking up $ from ad servers.
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#2125469 - 10/17/09 05:36 AM
Re: JOIN THE GUITAR PLAYER REDESIGN TEAM
[Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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Dannyalcatraz makes a good point that it would be good to have more articles on how to promote yourself over the internet, and more varied coverage of artists and the sites that they are using. I think we all know that that is the future of music. You have done some work there but could do more. Thanks! But I'm also talking about the full spectrum of stuff: - how to get your music into video games- even or especially those produced in some of the up & coming video game design programs popping up in colleges, universities and tech schools,
- how to get your music onto ringtone sites, including how to make your music into a ringtone,
- how to get your music into locally produced TV shows, movies or commercials
- how to get your music into major TV shows, movies and commercials
- basic marketing techniques,
- identifying developing markets
- identifying common attributes of the business techniques of successful artists
- cautionary tales
so what you really want is a subscription to Songwriter, Music Market, or Taxi rather than Guitar Player.
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#2125471 - 10/17/09 05:48 AM
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[Re: Bill@Welcome Home Studios]
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I haven't read guitar player since they started interviewing guys with big hair and pointy headstock guitars. So my opinion may have no validity.
But I read until the last year or so Keyboard, though I am in no way a keyboard player. Why? They covered recording. They covered sample libraries. They covered computer issues and sound cards. I'm pretty sure that they even covered mics now and again. They were more often correct and more accurate than EQ or EM. Most musicians want to know about that stuff, no mater what they play.
What I remember about Guitar Player..
I really liked the Rare Bird column. I like the history stuff. Revisiting a classic song, with interviews would be alright. I wanted more about acoustics. I wanted more about fingerstyle. I wanted more about unknown players who are exceptional, just to inform me and introduce me to their music. I wanted factory visits with photos. There have to be as couple of hundred guitar manufacturers and quite a few amp manufacturers in the US alone.
I'd like to see a regular 'myths exposed/tips and info' column or sidebar. Could be a little informative 'did ya know?' piece without having to be a full length article.
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#2125533 - 10/17/09 09:34 AM
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[Re: Dr. Ellwood]
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No offense to the others, but I'm not a fan of the "no name" Guitar Player issues.
I really couldn't care less about what some guitar player out of such and such a city, who has played a few gigs and is becoming really popular in such and such a country, has to say about his gear. My feelings are usually, "Who the heck is that guy and how did he wind up on the cover"?
I want to hear from the guys that "made it" I want to hear how they got that great tone and how they were able to get as far as they did. I tend to avoid issues where a no name player is the focus. Fact is, if you haven't earned a spot on the cover by "making it" and being someone I've heard of, then you probably are doing something wrong. Following that logic, why would I want to listen to someone who is doing something wrong?
Aside from that,
The world is changing. More and more musicians are sitting at home and recording on their computers. Because of this, they need help with techniques, software reviews, tips and tricks, set ups, hardware reviews, OS tweaks etc. etc. A magazine that provides that help is certainly a great asset to the new generation of musicians. What it is to be a guitar player, is changing and I think it's important that, any magazine that want to "keep up with the times", needs to be on top of those changes.
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#2125534 - 10/17/09 09:38 AM
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[Re: A String]
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" but I'm not a fan of the "no name" Guitar Player issues..."
I don't think that they should be an issue, but maybe a half page introduction with links to MP3s? And like you, I could care less what they have to say about gear. The mag is Guitar PLAYER. That is what I am interested in. I don't need another shill for Fender or Gibson or Marshall.
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#2125638 - 10/17/09 04:58 PM
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[Re: trushack]
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2) I generally find "Round-Up" pretty useless as far as gear evaluations go. It seems mostly like a convenient way to tell a manufacturer that, yes, you plugged such-and-such pedal in and jammed for a couple of minutes, wrote about it, and thanks for sending the sample along. Most of the time the reviews all sound the same, too. I'd rather see more of the "Fight Club" style reviews.
Let me refine this one a little bit. i went back through some old issues and actually a lot of the Round Up features were pretty good. What I was thinking of was the huge spread on pedals (like 37 different ones) and cables that was recently published. Roundups of five to ten similar products are fine...a jillion is a bit much, though those old articles I cited still rule.
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#2125657 - 10/17/09 06:43 PM
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[Re: trushack]
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I recently gave an amp roundup issue and a guitar roundup issue, both probably from the 1980s, to a group of friends who have been into their straight jobs for 20 years and have just emerged with the time and money to take up guitar, so they have done so and help each other along. They are digging the mags. (I also gave them about 20 issues of Guitar for the Practicing Musician,which was primarily a big hair mag, and they are digging playing the included songs.)
Yeah, yearly roundups are okay. What bores me about most 'music' mags these days (and keeps me from reading them) is that they are more about equipment... the latest and greatest from xxxxx... than they are about playing and players, and resources to help players. And in many cases, there is no research involved, it is just a restating of the publicity released by the manufacturers.
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#2125671 - 10/17/09 09:04 PM
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[Re: Bill@Welcome Home Studios]
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Dannyalcatraz makes a good point that it would be good to have more articles on how to promote yourself over the internet, and more varied coverage of artists and the sites that they are using. I think we all know that that is the future of music. You have done some work there but could do more. Thanks! But I'm also talking about the full spectrum of stuff: - how to get your music into video games- even or especially those produced in some of the up & coming video game design programs popping up in colleges, universities and tech schools,
- how to get your music onto ringtone sites, including how to make your music into a ringtone,
- how to get your music into locally produced TV shows, movies or commercials
- how to get your music into major TV shows, movies and commercials
- basic marketing techniques,
- identifying developing markets
- identifying common attributes of the business techniques of successful artists
- cautionary tales
so what you really want is a subscription to Songwriter, Music Market, or Taxi rather than Guitar Player. Yes and no. The fact is, the stuff I'm talking about can help any guitarist, especially those who are trying to "make it." And with the industry becoming more decentralized and outlets for exposure increasing with every affirmation of Moore's Law, the more important it is to get that kind of info into the hands of as many artists as possible. And lets face it- Guitar Player probably has a circulation equal to Songwriter, Music Market, and Taxi combined.
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#2125774 - 10/18/09 09:29 AM
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"...the stuff I'm talking about can help any guitarist, especially those who are trying to "make it.""
I don't think so. I think that your requirements specifically target writers who just happen to be guitar players. No matter, I don't care if that stuff is in GP, one way or the other. I'm saying that the focus of GP should be on the P of G. You're assuming that all guitar players write and will write anything to make a buck, and you want a specific subset of resources aimed at helping a writer 'make it'. (shrug)
"Guitar Player probably has a circulation equal to Songwriter, Music Market, and Taxi combined."
Which has nothing to do with where writers, no matter what they play, will go to try to find an outlet for their writing. The New York Times has them all beat, and on a daily basis. But none of us go there to try to find out how to sell what we write. Neither do I expect to find such info in GP. But as I said above, "shrug", makes no difference to me, just seems OT. In my own list of suggestions I cover the wider aspects of recording a players music, and they all might not want to do that, either. I feel that many more players want to make a recording, if only to give to the girls and to grandma, than want to write, let alone write commercially. (again, I shrug. none of this is a big deal.)
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#2125813 - 10/18/09 11:50 AM
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I don't read the other magazines so for me having all sorts of stuff in GP is a good thing...this includes: writing, recording, gear, tech stuff, featured players, demo links, etc....but keep it in tune (no pun intended) with guitar playing and basic music concepts...and keep it fun.
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#2125817 - 10/18/09 11:58 AM
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Well, if it's not out there now (and I don't pay attention) then I suggest GP do on offshoot magazine GG.com; "Guitar Gear dot com" and "Guitar Gear" magazine. Like I said, I'm a full-blown techie; I read magazines for knowledge. I have no time for a 5 page article of: GP: So, where did you get your Kramer? EVH: Oh, I made it from a bunch of other guitars and painted it. For me, I really don't care; you want ME to subscribe, give me information as a GUITARIST that I can use. 
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#2125821 - 10/18/09 12:15 PM
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My only suggestion would be to include more beginner level content.
With the way the world is going, things like Rock Band and Guitar Hero are introducing new players into the fold all the time. And it takes years to escape the 'beginner' status (unless you're practicing a massive amount each day, which most people who've moved out of their parent's house don't have the time to do).
Along this same thread, I find many articles to be extremely theory-heavy. While theory is a good thing, its an unfamiliar language to many players (even advanced ones, who've never taken the time to really learn) and it can instantly cause them to skip to the next article (or the next magazine, if there's not enough non-theory material in that issue).
I don't have any suggestions to remedy the second point, but its something that frustrated me endlessly when I first started reading GP about the same time I started playing; I could practice along with the tabs and such, but I had no clue what E7sus4 was or how to do it.
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#2125920 - 10/18/09 06:12 PM
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I've been a Guitar Player subscriber since 1994. Right now, it's the only magazine I subscribe to, and the only guitar magazine I've read regularly over the years.
Some of the things I really like about GP:
-- You keep it clean. I appreciate that I don't have to wade through dozens of F-bombs in every interview and editorial. In other words, you're not contributing to the further coarsening of our society. I can give your mag to students without worry. Thanks.
-- You cover a variety of music and musicians, and you don't seem to bow to fashion. You have an appreciation of the legacy of music, rather than a shortsightedness about the flavor of the month. This is even reflected in the quality of your advertising.
-- You write about a good range of gear, from very affordable to (at least for me) the quite pricey, although I read all the gear reviews no matter whether I'd buy the item.
Things that I think you can improve:
-- Make the magazine more educational. One of the best cover stories you had in the last while was a really big takeout on how to build a pedal board. I was so excited about that piece that I re-read it a few times. Tell us more of that -- how to dial in a great sound, how to make our delay pedals work, etc.
-- Cover the people who are being inventive and help us be the same. Write about the guys who mod pedals and tell us whether the mods actually make a difference. Talk about people who mod amps, mod guitars, etc. There's a huge interest in DIY these days; help us join in.
-- Take me into the worlds of people who do cool guitar-related jobs. Profile luthiers, recording engineers, guitar techs on tour, pedal builders, etc.
-- Tell me more about ISSUES. Do you have the balls to write about Guitar Center's monopoly on retail and how that affects the prices we're paying for gear?
-- Drop the "10 Things Ya Gotta Do ..." If you want to teach me to play, pick a song or a solo and dissect the whole thing, including telling me the hand and finger positions for each move, etc.
-- Hire some wordsmiths. You guys are all decent writers, but you need someone who writes on the level of a New York Times Sunday Magazine writer. Set that person loose on the ISSUES stories I mentioned earlier.
-- Cut the "Internet hordes" column. I've never explored any of those people and most likely won't unless the record a song or album that finds its way to me. And I've discovered over the years that good music always finds its way to me ... I don't have to do much searching.
-- On lessons and tips, give more for the beginner/intermediate.
-- I'm concerned that your page count is dropping. I'm sure advertising decreases play a roll. But don't follow the mistake of newspapers and keep cutting pages. It's a death spiral.
-- Do star musicians always describe their speaker cabinets as being "loaded with xxx"? I always find that funny -- they sound like a NASCAR driver in the winners' circle ... "well, the Coors Light Chevy did well today." Maybe tell us when a star you're interviewing has an endorsement deal with a manufacturer so I can know when he's actually pitching a product and not just offering info.
Enough for now ...
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#2125962 - 10/18/09 09:40 PM
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And don't assume your readers "know everything". I read my computer magazines and at least 2 times a year they'll have an in-depth STEP-BY-STEP guide to building a PC. I can practically do it blindfolded, but read it none the less. For GP, tell me how I can build a home recording studio on a budget. How do I hook up (in DETAIL) my computer to my laptop and play licks over a track (and how I get that backing track, say, into Audacity). Or, if I buy some power amp tubes, how to put them in SAFELY and re-bias my amp without having to take it to a Pro and pay them a $35 bench fee PLUS labor for the re-bias. Too many amps to cover? Fine, have a Web link to a spot where 50 of the most popular amps are re-biased. Hire an intern (read: cheap labor) to do the research and document it. Helps you, helps me and helps the intern looking for a possible job  And how to setup my Telecaster to go from .009's to .010 string size (e.g. intonation, bridge adjustment, truss rod tweak etc.) in detail (ala "Setup for Dummies") It may seem simple to you (like building a PC is for me), but I need that simplistic approach. And, even with the PC builds, I always learn something new. 
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#2126372 - 10/19/09 08:43 PM
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-- Make the magazine more educational. One of the best cover stories you had in the last while was a really big takeout on how to build a pedal board. I was so excited about that piece that I re-read it a few times. Tell us more of that -- how to dial in a great sound, how to make our delay pedals work, etc.
Hear! Hear! I have had that issue sitting out near my guitars & rig since it came out...and I read it before I go shopping for a new pedal. -- Cover the people who are being inventive and help us be the same. Write about the guys who mod pedals and tell us whether the mods actually make a difference. Talk about people who mod amps, mod guitars, etc. There's a huge interest in DIY these days; help us join in. Again, excellent!
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#2126398 - 10/19/09 11:06 PM
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Dumeril Seven nailed a lot of things I'd say.
In general, I'd like more articles about playing, and less about gear.
Although I'm not a beginner, I think having more lessons for beginners would be a good idea.
Having some instructional columns with thematic continuity from issue to issue would be helpful also.
Instead of gear reviews, I'd like more CD and DVD reviews.
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#2126417 - 10/20/09 03:20 AM
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I think the magazine is fine, graphically. I don't know that making changes in the way it's laid out would make a substantive improvement. The suggestions about content so far seem pretty right on. I wonder if a "beginner's theory for guitar" section is something that would work. The suggestion not to think the reader already knows everything struck home with me. If you could find someone with a creative way of teaching guitar students how to read music, I'd subscribe again.
I like the gear reviews, but I think the shoot-outs vs round-ups comment above was right on. And, while I love reading about high-dollar boutique & custom shop gear, my budget allows low-dollar gear more often than the expensive stuff, and I doubt that I'm alone or even a rarity among your readership. I'd like to see some shootouts like Agile guitars vs Xaviere guitars etc, and pointing out pitfalls to avoid and in buying low-budget gear. With the advent of internet sales, there are options to buy gear without playing it first, and you guys could kinda brave those waters first, and tell us what is acceptable, usable gear, and what is junk.
What do you think, EB, any chance of seeing those sorts of things in the revamped GP?
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#2126443 - 10/20/09 06:16 AM
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Like most print media, I think you've got a tough row to hoe. The competition is not just those other guitar/music magazines, it is the internet which has the ability to provide fresh content as soon as it becomes available (an ability that is really hurting newspapers)as well as the whole interactive/streaming thing. How can static media compete with something like this, for instance: http://anawatyrussell.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=54&Itemid=45 when discussing how to mix a tune? I think you have to focus on what you do best.I don't think you need us to tell you what that is, you've been doing it for years.
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#2126451 - 10/20/09 06:34 AM
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"Like most print media, I think you've got a tough row to hoe. The competition is not just those other guitar/music magazines, it is the internet which has the ability to provide fresh content as soon as it becomes available ..."
I don't know that this affects GP as much. There are some magazines that are better than their internet competition, and lets face it, most guitar sites are not providing useful fresh content on any regular basis, most pretty much blow chunks in that department. And I'm expected to scan through HOW many sites a day, HOPING that MAYBE they've posted something new? Meanwhile, I know that, once a month, certain mags arrive at the door and give me an update, on schedule. Most of the world doesn't get to sit in front of a computer all day and read internet sites. I simply stopped reading guitar player at a low point in its history, and never got back to it. I don't bother with Mix or PAR or EQ or EM on line, I read the print version, gladly scanning pages during TV commercials, marking articles to be read at night before going to bed.
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#2126482 - 10/20/09 07:47 AM
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-Looking back at some issues from the late 80s I notice that the magazine was thicker with more content. I know this is an economic reality but I've been able to burn through some of the recent issues in 1/2 hour.
-The stories could be more in-depth. As mentioned in a post above, a lot of features consist of a photo, a brief profile and a couple of paragraphs about gear. I'd rather have fewer, longer features with more detail about the creative process and actual playing techniques.
-Need a more formal journalistic approach. Less articles with the word "I" in them. I could care less about the author. Also, Molenda uses way too many gushing metaphors. Need to go back to journalism school.
-Lose the female musician feature. That's ghetto-ization. There are many great female players now and they should be featured along side their male colleagues with no special mention of their gender.
Otherwise it's a great mag and I've been reading it since I was a teen over 20 years ago. Great variety of styles covered.
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#2126589 - 10/20/09 11:15 AM
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Since we are discussing that GP is competing with the internet, you have to offer content that you can't get on the internet. One big thing GP had going for it in the late 70's and early 80's was a lineup of really good columnists. Really good writing from well respected established players. You would tune in each month and hear from Tommy Tedesco, Rik Emmit, George Gruhn, Barney Kessel, Michael Lorimor, Craig Anderton , Dan Erlewine, and a host of others. There may have been an opinionated SOB that pissed you off every other month, but you sure couldn't wait to read next months rant. It's not that the current writing isn't good, but its seems like its one been amalgamous blend with only one personality. I can hardly tell the difference in writing styles and what tastes of music each individual might have. I am not saying stir up controversy for it's own sake, just get some big names that write a column every month that we will want to follow for there own merit.
There is a good part of having some flexability and randomness on what to expect each month, but again I think you need some exclusive personalities with varying opinions where each has his own niche genre. I would like a good classical guy, a good acoustic guy, a beginner guy, a C&W guy, a jazz guy, a rock guy, a blues guy, ect., as well as equipment and repair guys. Something for everyone so I don't have to wait for a random article on my favorite style. I am sure it wouldn't be easy to assemble such stellar columnists as in the past overnight, but it would be a long term goal to have a stable of writers that really made GP feel important again. My broad musical tastes are in some respects due to the eclectic columnists of GP past that exposed me to so many genres of music that I never would have payed attention to if not for them.
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#2127389 - 10/22/09 09:38 AM
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"One big thing GP had going for it in the late 70's and early 80's was a lineup of really good columnists. Really good writing from well respected established players. You would tune in each month and hear from Tommy Tedesco, Rik Emmit, George Gruhn, Barney Kessel, Michael Lorimor, Craig Anderton , Dan Erlewine, and a host of others. "
I cannot speak to GP in particular, but I stopped writing for publication when the pay scale dropped to the point where it was not worth my time. You have to really just want to write for a magazine now for it to be worth it, there is no way to do it and make any reasonable amount of money. For every writer who used to appear in the various music publications there are 50,000 guys who will do it for free. And the publishers look at that savings, and take it.
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#2127444 - 10/22/09 11:34 AM
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You have to really just want to write for a magazine now for it to be worth it, there is no way to do it and make any reasonable amount of money. For every writer who used to appear in the various music publications there are 50,000 guys who will do it for free. And the publishers look at that savings, and take it.
Sounds like the writing biz is just like the music biz.
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#2127477 - 10/22/09 01:10 PM
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I don't disagree with whether writers are payed enough or not, I really don't know. If you want talent, you are going to have to pay for it. I am not talking about 50,000 guys that will write on the cheap, I am talking big name credible talent with unique opinions on music. Lots of people can write well, but very few are interesting, especially when talking about a specific subject like guitar.
If money is an issue, pay for it the way lots of people finance things these days, sponsorship. For instance, off the top of my head, Eric Johnson writes a column each month on electric guitar and Fender steps up to the plate as the sponsor. Heck even Budwieser sponsors concert tours, maybe there is a tie in there. Not flat out beer ads, but a tie in to the tour.
Again, I am not trying to slam the GP staff, they write well and use all the cool new lingo. I just think GP needs some individualality. The old regular columnists had personalities. Like I said earlier, it would take awhile to find engaging guitarists/writers, but there's bound to be talented people out there that have something to say and having a monthly check never hurts.
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#2127631 - 10/22/09 07:29 PM
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I recently gave an amp roundup issue and a guitar roundup issue, both probably from the 1980s, to a group of friends who have been into their straight jobs for 20 years and have just emerged with the time and money to take up guitar, so they have done so and help each other along. They are digging the mags. (I also gave them about 20 issues of Guitar for the Practicing Musician,which was primarily a big hair mag, and they are digging playing the included songs.)
Yeah, yearly roundups are okay. What bores me about most 'music' mags these days (and keeps me from reading them) is that they are more about equipment... the latest and greatest from xxxxx... than they are about playing and players, and resources to help players. And in many cases, there is no research involved, it is just a restating of the publicity released by the manufacturers. that is my biggest complaint about product spotlights. i get annoyed to see the same copy in an article as is on the site of the manufacturer. when i see an article i expect to be informed in depth instead of reading an add disguised as an article. i miss the player setups.
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#2127938 - 10/23/09 02:36 PM
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First let me say that I find the current staff & content generally equal to any period of GPlayer's past & better than some eras. I'm not sure too many changes are needed & I'd caution against following too much along the lines of the competition in targeting certain niches...there's a reason GP remains the most respected of the guitar-oriented mags.
My main ideas would be to reprint some of the pieces from the past sometimes. Jas Obrecht, as just one example, detailed the histories of some terrific blues players & there are almost infinite other examples through the mag's history.
It also might be nice to find someone (or a varying list, periodically) who'd fill the gap left by Tedesco regarding session playing, whether pop, film, cartoons or advertising. I think that would answer some of the things mentioned above about career advancment without getting too far afield into areas already covered by EQ or other periodicals. That's where to find yer constant info on recording methods, Net-posting, & the like...one magazine can't be all to all of us!
I would suggest that some ideas, such as "glossy full color pages" (don't we already get those?!) are great in themselves but not realistic in a time when publishing costs are driving many out of the printed format.
In sum, I'd suggest something that's prolly alreday being done: simply look over the history of the mag & return some of the things that worked in the past, possibly on a rotating basis rather than in every issue.
I dunno, though, as said, I think GP's doing great. I hope nothing of value's gonna be lost.
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#2130337 - 10/31/09 11:51 AM
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And don't assume your readers "know everything".
For GP, tell me how I can build a home recording studio on a budget. How do I hook up (in DETAIL) my computer to my laptop and play licks over a track (and how I get that backing track, say, into Audacity). THIS and by a budget I mean not several hundred bucks but a barebones one. It has to work well for bass (primary instrument) also. Also some more stuff for beginners like me. As soon as the theory talk comes out I am often lost. Even though I hate to admit this in public I'll give the example of scales and solos. While I can play a few basic scales I have no idea how to solo even though I have read and been told that solos are built on scales.  Also I think it would be nice to reward manufacturers that make their models available for us lefty players as well. Always let us know if there's a lefty model available (or not) for the guitar reviewed. If there is then ensure that the same options are available as well (i.e. Fender will not give offer maple fingerboards on lefty basses and seem to think that lefties only want black and 3-colour burst on most offerings) It always sucks to see a nice piece of gear and then finding out (as usual) it's unavailable for southpaws. In this age of CNC manufacturing IMO it's ridiculous as it isn't especially difficult to hit mirror image. Then I think there would be more reviews of makers like Schecter, Dean, and Ernie Ball who put the big two to utter shame in this aspect as well as perhaps increasing the number of lefty players as many may not be aware of lefty gear. I myself had no idea and after a disastrous attempt at 14 on a regular guitar I gave up until almost 25 years later when a new musician friend informed me of the existence of lefty gear. Just my two cents as a very new reader. Cheers Newf 
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#2133090 - 11/10/09 01:28 PM
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Something new has occured to me. I'ts actually been going on a while but seems to be getting more frequent. I personally hate those addenda to some articles suggesting that we on the forum discuss some specific aspect of the article, things like: "Did you ever have a wacky onstage experience ? Go to the GPlayer online forum & talk about it. You may be mentioned in the magazine!"
Why should we discuss something that's already been cited in the mag ? That's just redundant. Don't we stimulate our own discussions enough that pages are piling up on your servers ? I think a much better option, that's already been used, is to cite some discussion that springs up spontaneously, when it's interesting enough or, as Craig Anderton [BTW, great to see him back recently] is wont to do, ask a question about a subject that's being considered for an article & include relevant responses.
FWIW, I note that several have mentioned providing more basic info on subjects. That's good but as I've been recently culling old issues I'm in a patch where sidebars to articles would briefly explain those basics [The "Huh ?" series from about 5 years ago]. I can't help noting that when done then, there was a strong outporing of letters criticizing the practice b/c "we don't need this beginner stuff". Guess there will always be something to complain about.
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#2135170 - 11/17/09 05:16 PM
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I'd like the idea of group interview from artists in different genre's discussing something a little more interesting than what strings/amps/pedals they use.
Maybe even the readers could have a say(write in) in what might be the 20 most relevant questions to a musician and what artists they'd like to see be interviewed together???
Al Di Meola & Allan Holdsworth discussing the use legato vs picking...
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#2135178 - 11/17/09 06:13 PM
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That's not half-bad! A "Legend's Symposium" where you put 3-5 great guitarists in a room and let them expound on a particular subject...you'd get some interesting info, to be sure.
Topic choice might be tough, though.
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#2135873 - Yesterday at 07:25 PM
Re: JOIN THE GUITAR PLAYER REDESIGN TEAM
[Re: Jeremy Mitchell]
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I'd like the idea of group interview from artists in different genre's discussing something a little more interesting than what strings/amps/pedals they use.
Maybe even the readers could have a say(write in) in what might be the 20 most relevant questions to a musician and what artists they'd like to see be interviewed together???
Al Di Meola & Allan Holdsworth discussing the use legato vs picking...
+1 the idea of having some forum type discussions among the legends in one article sounds like a cool idea.. 
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