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Korg SV-1 Stage Vintage Piano - Official Product Intro Video #2115006 09/12/09 08:18 AM
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I didn't realize it had a synth section too. Apparently, you can play Jump with this board, or something that sounds like it…

[The embedded link is lower quality than if you watch it directly on YouTube.]


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Re: Korg SV-1 Stage Vintage Piano - Official Product Intro Video [Re: Joe Muscara] #2115016 09/12/09 08:45 AM
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Thanks. thu

I'd like to see if they do pitch bend. Also learn more about the stainless steel. stand. If the $2150 is accurate, it's a great price point for all this functionality.

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Apparently, you can play Jump with this board, or something that sounds like it…


Somebody should tell Van Halen. Those guys play something that sounds a bit like it.

Or not. wink

Re: Korg SV-1 Stage Vintage Piano - Official Product Intro Video [Re: Tusker] #2115029 09/12/09 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted By: Tusker
Thanks. thu

I'd like to see if they do pitch bend.


I hope is multitimbral over midi to connect a 2nd synth action keyboard incl. the desired left hand controllers and I think PB and such will work this way then. Depends on MIDI implementation.
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Read more about it at:

www.korg.com/sv1

We've even posted the manual. In stores by early November.

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Re: Korg SV-1 Stage Vintage Piano - Official Product Intro Video [Re: Tusker] #2115051 09/12/09 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted By: Tusker
Somebody should tell Van Halen. Those guys play something that sounds a bit like it. Or not. wink


Sad but true, I saw Van Halen last year with David Lee Roth, and they used backing tracks for Jump & I'll Wait.

Re: Korg SV-1 Stage Vintage Piano - Official Product Intro V [Re: jerrythek] #2115058 09/12/09 12:07 PM
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Seems to be something wrong with the demo songs on the Korg site. I was unable to stream any, so I downloaded an MP3 of an acoustic piano patch and downloaded 41 seconds of silence.

Looks like us 88-fanatics are stuck with boring brown.

Keybed confirmed as RH3 - can any of you who have played one of these actions comment?

Also, I'm still a little unsure as to whether the tube amplification thing is modelled or whether that little tube on the front panel actually does something. If so, what's its projected life, how easy is it (will it be in future years) to get hold of a replacement and at what cost and most seriously of all, what happens to the machine if it gives up the ghost during a gig?

It's obviously got the Stage firmly in its sights but obviously the organ and synth sections are nowhere near as comprehensive or tweakable. For non-B3 freaks, that may be good enough though having included these sounds I'm not sure why they nixed any possibility of layering and splits. Except for the obvious one of cost.

At £600 less than the Stage (and hopefully superior acoustic piano samples) this is going to be an attractive proposition for a lot of people.


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Re: Korg SV-1 Stage Vintage Piano - Official Product Intro V [Re: RedKey] #2115059 09/12/09 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: RedKey
Originally Posted By: Tusker
Somebody should tell Van Halen. Those guys play something that sounds a bit like it. Or not. wink


Sad but true, I saw Van Halen last year with David Lee Roth, and they used backing tracks for Jump & I'll Wait.


I think he's referring to this.


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Re: Korg SV-1 Stage Vintage Piano - Official Product Intro V [Re: Aidan] #2115060 09/12/09 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted By: Aidan


At £600 less than the Stage (and hopefully superior acoustic piano samples) this is going to be an attractive proposition for a lot of people.


For people who already have a clonewheel, and aren't into splits, layers and synths this thing looks really promising.

I am one of those people. I wonder if you can dial in a different rhodes sound. The one on the demo sounds decent, but a bit too full of overtones for my taste. I'd like it a bit more darker and with more bite.


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Re: Korg SV-1 Stage Vintage Piano - Official Product Intro V [Re: Aidan] #2115061 09/12/09 12:31 PM
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I couldn't get the demos on the Korg site to work, either. "File could not be found."

I've played the RH3 action on the Korg M50-88 a bit and like it. It's smooth and solid. I could see people choosing this over the Nord Stage for the action alone. Seems like Korg has a winner here. I want one.

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Very promising product, I agree. Unfortunately, I do regularly need splits, layers and synths so I won't be cancelling my order for the S90XS. But it would be nice to have the luxury to have one of these just for solo piano or trio gigs smile


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Re: Korg SV-1 Stage Vintage Piano - Official Product Intro V [Re: Aidan] #2115067 09/12/09 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted By: Aidan
Also, I'm still a little unsure as to whether the tube amplification thing is modelled or whether that little tube on the front panel actually does something. If so, what's its projected life, how easy is it (will it be in future years) to get hold of a replacement and at what cost and most seriously of all, what happens to the machine if it gives up the ghost during a gig?


My guess is that this is really alot like the Vox Tonelab being built into the keyboard (Korg owns Vox):


Good thing too, being one of my favourite effects to run a ROMpler's Rhodes sound through. It makes a huge difference for EP sounds.

Guitarists consider it The best amp modeller on the market.

The tube is used. Here's details on how to replace the tube in the Tonelab (which is likely the same with the SV-1):
http://www.tonelab.net/how-to-replace-your-tube

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Originally Posted By: Aidan
Keybed confirmed as RH3 - can any of you who have played one of these actions comment?


If this is indeed the same action as the M5088 it's a bit on the light fast side for a fully weighted action. I like it a lot but heavy hitters may not have the same reaction.

Lack of aftertouch on the M50 gives it a very solid bottom. Aftertouch to me always adds a bit of sponginess to any action. I don't know if this new piano has aftertouch or not.

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Yes, definitely promising.

Small nit-pick here: why no pitch bend and mod wheel? I know that rhodes and wurlys and pianos don't have em, so what? This is a midi-capable instrument, I might want to use it as a controller at some point, and with no pitch/mod, that limits its usefullness as a controller. A lot of guys can't afford to have several different boards, we need to limit ourselves to one or two. So, you see my point.

Anyway, the demos sound good, I'm looking forward to playing one.

Re: Korg SV-1 Stage Vintage Piano - Official Product Intro V [Re: Dana.] #2115079 09/12/09 01:43 PM
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What platform/browser are you using?

I'm finding the streaming to be choking - my bad for putting up only high resolution files. We'll have to deal with that on Monday. But if you view "All Media" you get the player and can choose to download the MP3 files to play offline. That's working fine.

Sorry for any problems.

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Originally Posted By: jook
Originally Posted By: Aidan
Also, I'm still a little unsure as to whether the tube amplification thing is modelled or whether that little tube on the front panel actually does something. If so, what's its projected life, how easy is it (will it be in future years) to get hold of a replacement and at what cost and most seriously of all, what happens to the machine if it gives up the ghost during a gig?


My guess is that this is really alot like the Vox Tonelab being built into the keyboard (Korg owns Vox):


Good thing too, being one of my favourite effects to run a ROMpler's Rhodes sound through. It makes a huge difference for EP sounds.

Guitarists consider it The best amp modeller on the market.

The tube is used. Here's details on how to replace the tube in the Tonelab (which is likely the same with the SV-1):
http://www.tonelab.net/how-to-replace-your-tube


Yes, the Tube is the complete Valve Reactor circuitry we use in Vox amps etc. It is very low power driving the tube so it will have a very long life. But it is real and work in conjunction with the Amp Modeling section. The light doesn't change (it's a back-light) but when the Amp section is off the tube isn't being used.

Check out the Editor screen shots in the Image Gallery - there are a lot more parameters to control and shape the amp modeling available in the Editor, and that is the key to really dialing in the best sounds.

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I've been downloading the demos and they load nicely into iTunes. The only one I can't download is Grand Piano 2.

The manual for the Editor goes into more detail about the amp and FX modeling. Seems to be very well done. As I understand it, using the editor, any/all of the 36 sounds can be modified or replaced with something else entirely. Also noticed that the keyboard velocity response is saved with each preset.

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Seems that... Clavia has put the standard very high. Let's wait and see (please more youtube videos)


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Originally Posted By: burningbusch
I've been downloading the demos and they load nicely into iTunes. The only one I can't download is Grand Piano 2.
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Ok, I see the same problem. We'll get that fixed. Thanks.

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Originally Posted By: burningbusch
I've been downloading the demos and they load nicely into iTunes. The only one I can't download is Grand Piano 2.

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+1 - sorry, didn't realise my soundcard had blurped out earlier.


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So the electric pianos start with several seven-way, velocity switched “tine” versions, continue through the classic “reed” based model and then into a vintage analog “electra” instrument (all from American manufacturers), as well as two different Japanese mid-80’s digital classics.

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Thank you.

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The vid is a very nicely produced piece of marketing - hats off to Korg's marketing dept. I'm eager to demo it when it gets released, hope it measures up to the expectations the demo presents. Any word on street price?


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80's Synth Piano; MIDI Grand


Bank 3; Clav:

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Bank 4; Piano:

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Mono Grand; Upright Piano; Piano + Strings; Piano + Pad


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Tonewheel (x3); USA Tube Console; Italian Combo; VOX Combo


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Modulation FX:

On/Off Switch; Speed Knob, Intensity Knob; Chorus 1, Chorus 2,
Phaser 1, Phaser 2, Flanger, Rotary (Fast/Slow Switch)


Reverb/Delay:

On/Off Switch; Depth Knob; Room, Plate, Hall, Spring,
Tape Echo, Stereo Delay (Tap-Tempo Button)


Valve Reactor Tube:

1 x 12AX7


Other Panel Controls:

Master Volume Knob
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If typical MIDI controller features are needed (for multiple channel output and control, dedicated expression pedal, program changes, etc.), a separate piece of hardware will be required. Although, setting a separate box on the curved top will be tricky...kinda' like with my Rhodes. Perhaps someone will design a flat shelf to use the music stand recepticles. Or maybe Korg will take the suggestion and whip something like this up as an accessory. Other than that...sign me up.

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Hey Jerry the Korg Guy - tell "them" thanks for including a mono piano. I hope it sounds as good up close and personal as it does on the net thu


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Originally Posted By: jerrythek
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I've been downloading the demos and they load nicely into iTunes. The only one I can't download is Grand Piano 2.
Busch.


Ok, I see the same problem. We'll get that fixed. Thanks.

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OK, problem already fixed, as well as the sub-par streaming issues. All seems good to me - let me know your results.

Regards,

Jerry

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Originally Posted By: kanker.
Hey Jerry the Korg Guy - tell "them" thanks for including a mono piano. I hope it sounds as good up close and personal as it does on the net thu


No problem. When finishing the voicing I also found a "trick" on the Grand Piano 1 (Japanese Grand - you know who) with the Pre-FX that successfully collapses the stereo to mono as well without bad coloration. So by turning on the Pre-FX you get a second mono choice...

But... mono keyboard amps should be as reviled here as the dreaded X stand IMHO.

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Originally Posted By: timwat
Any word on street price?


$2150 has been given. Unknown if that's street or retail or for the 73 or 88. This Japanese retailer XXXXX confirms the ~$2,000 price.

Interesting that a Nord Stage 88 EX in Japan sells for the equivalent of $4,500!!!

Busch.

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Originally Posted By: jerrythek
mono keyboard amps should be as reviled here as the dreaded X stand IMHO.

W3rd. thu

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