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Quik Lok M91 Monolith stand. #2109723 08/27/09 12:06 PM
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Hello

Does anyone use one of the Quik Lok Monolith stands? If so does anyone use the add-on 2nd tier? How well do like. What don't you like?

I have been having to blacksmith my Instandt stands for too long. I am getting ready to buy a Stage Piano so I thought I would upgrade the stands while I am spending money. Planning as of right now to put a Kawai MP5 on the bottom and a XK-3c on the second tier.

PS - Does anyone know whatever happened to Instandt. I can't find them on the internet.

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I use the M91 (shown) and found that the lowest setting for my CP300, which is a thick keyboard, was just too high when sitting. I had it cut down at a metal shop.

It's a solid stand, looks great but is a tad heavy. I have not used any additional tiers.

Since you're asking about the additional tier I would assume you will not be seated when playing. If you do sit make sure the lowest setting is adequate for your needs.

Re: Quik Lok M91 Monolith stand. [Re: Dave Horne] #2109732 08/27/09 12:23 PM
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No I will be sitting. I can't play standing up. My bench and my throne have a lot of height adjustment.

Thanks a lot for your response. That helps I am going to have to find a store to check one out in case it is too tall. You have been a help.


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Re: Quik Lok M91 Monolith stand. [Re: CEB] #2109742 08/27/09 12:35 PM
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Interesting looking stand....

I'm in the market for a new one (although I'd use it standing, with a second tier). Dave, besides the weight, how's the portability? How does it break down for travel?

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I have one with the second tier. No complaints. Very solid and stable with a Kurz PC2x on it, and I like how the bottom bar keeps pedals and switches from wandering away. I mostly use the second tier to support a full-length-of-the-keyboard music desk (I often need to spread out a score), so I can't speak to how stable it would be with a keyboard in the 40-50 pound range on top. Maybe somebody else knows.

Sets up and folds down in a few seconds, and while I suppose it's heavier than some other stands, it's no heavier than the bag of cables and pedals that you're probably also carrying.

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Re: Quik Lok M91 Monolith stand. [Re: iLaw] #2109768 08/27/09 01:29 PM
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My friend Chuck has one of these and I wanna get one for myself. Plenty of legroom, finally. The second tier looks a bit iffy, but Quiklok claims it can hold 75 lbs.

Re: Quik Lok M91 Monolith stand. [Re: iLaw] #2109770 08/27/09 01:37 PM
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I've been using one with the upper tier for a couple of years. All in all, I'd buy it again. I play sitting and don't have any issues with the height. When I use the upper tier, it holds a NE 2 73, never put anything heavier up there.

I like iLaw's use of the upper stand to hold a music stand. Very clever.

Pluses: Rock stable. Folds flat. Can use the lower front bar to "pin" pedals by their cables to keep them from wandering. Looks way cooler than an X stand.

Minuses: Heavy. Expensive. Awkward shape when folded, it doesn't sit very very on a cart or dolly compared to an X stand. Has gotten really scratched up because it has to go flat in the cargo area and everything goes on top of it.


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Re: Quik Lok M91 Monolith stand. [Re: Dave Bryce] #2109800 08/27/09 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
Interesting looking stand....

I'm in the market for a new one (although I'd use it standing, with a second tier). Dave, besides the weight, how's the portability? How does it break down for travel?

dB


Dave, it doesn't break down per se, the two legs rotate inwards and it becomes a flat package.

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Originally Posted By: Dave Horne
Dave, it doesn't break down per se, the two legs rotate inwards and it becomes a flat package.

Got it. That makes sense, looking at it. Wonder if it'll fit in my trunk (BMW 3 series) like that...can you ballpark approximately what it measures collapsed?

Thanks, Dave!

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Re: Quik Lok M91 Monolith stand. [Re: Dave Bryce] #2109811 08/27/09 02:46 PM
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From http://www.quiklok.it/ita/eng/index_eng_catalogo.html

....M/91
THE MONOLITH Single-Tier


Side to side width: 33.46 - 85 cm
Top to bottom height positions: from 26.2 to 36
from 66.5 to 91.5 cm
Weight capacity: 200 lb - 90 kg
Weight: 23.3 lb -10.5kg

It was easier for to get this online than to actually measure mine; it's in a closet with a lot of stuff blocking it.

Re: Quik Lok M91 Monolith stand. [Re: Dave Horne] #2109821 08/27/09 03:08 PM
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I bought one and promptly returned it because it wasn't very sturdy. Mostly because when playing I stand or sit on a rather high bench so the M91 was set almost as high as it would go. I would have been using the second tier too, so that config made it way too top heavy and too shaky. I am awaiting the arrival of Quik lok Z71 as an alternative. http://quiklok.com/catalog/?p=productsMore&iProduct=78&sName=Z-71 But QL has apparently delayed the release. It first showed up at GC/MF in April available in May - each month that was pushed out to the current "availability" of 9/10. Any one have any info on that as to why?


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Re: Quik Lok M91 Monolith stand. [Re: StanC] #2109835 08/27/09 04:13 PM
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Thanks, Dave....looks like it'll fit just fine. Just ordered one. thu

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I was just looking for information on this stand - thanks for the helpful feedback. Just ordered one with the second tier for $118 shipped.

What a great forum.

Re: Quik Lok M91 Monolith stand. [Re: Zydecat] #2109859 08/27/09 05:28 PM
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I've used the Monolith for years, with and without the 2nd tier. Very sturdy and easy to setup/takedown, and since it folds flat you can pack other gear on top of it easily.

Here's a trick: those 2nd tier risers actually don't lower much more than what you see in the picture above, however you can take the risers apart and cut them down yourself with a jigsaw, redrill the holes for the thumbscrews, and get a nice close fit between your upper and lower keyboards. I did that for my Kawai ES4 on bottom and Hammond XK3c on top combo. It's a bit of an effort to go to but I found it to be worth it for the reduction in height between boards. QuikLok should take a hint and make the 2nd tiers lower because you can always raise them if you need height. but you can mod it yourself in minutes.

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Thanks for the tip - when I do use two keyboards I like the top one low and close.

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Originally Posted By: StanC
I bought one and promptly returned it because it wasn't very sturdy. Mostly because when playing I stand or sit on a rather high bench so the M91 was set almost as high as it would go. I would have been using the second tier too, so that config made it way too top heavy and too shaky. I am awaiting the arrival of Quik lok Z71 as an alternative. http://quiklok.com/catalog/?p=productsMore&iProduct=78&sName=Z-71 But QL has apparently delayed the release. It first showed up at GC/MF in April available in May - each month that was pushed out to the current "availability" of 9/10. Any one have any info on that as to why?



I don't have that info, but I'll just add that I have two Z stands - OnStage and Hercules. IMO the Hercules is the winner - they have a clutch-lock system which makes the OnStage's knobs (10! with the 2nd tier) a PITA. And the Hercules was less money.


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Re: Quik Lok M91 Monolith stand. [Re: drawback] #2110234 08/28/09 05:14 PM
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1+ for the M91. Very quick set-up and the second tiers work great. I find that it is plenty sturdy though there can a bit of sideways movement if someone (like a wild bass player) knocks into it. smile I use a Roland RD700GX on the bottom and an XK3 on top.

A hint to CEB:
The bottom of the XK3 is not flat and I assume the XK3c is the same. This presents a problem because the top tier of the M91 doesn't span the entire bottom of the XK3 from front to back. Instead the back of the top tier goes up into the recess on the bottom of the XK3. My solution was to find small blocks of wood to use as shims and used velcro to hold them into the recess above the back of each tier. "I hope that explanation makes sense. If not I'll take pictures". What I used for shims was hardwood flooring samples from Home Depot that sell for 99 cents each. They happened to be just the perfect thickness for the job. I bought one and cut it in half and that was that.

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Re: Quik Lok M91 Monolith stand. [Re: DaveMcM] #2111001 08/31/09 12:37 PM
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Thanks a lot for the tip. It makes sense. You are a big help.

Thanks everyone for all of your input. This is forum stuff is a great thing.

Thanks again.


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I've used an M-91 for the last few years, mostly sitting with an RD-700SX on the bottom and a Nord Stage 76 on top and have been really pleased with it. I like the fact that there is barely any front to back movement (which I find you get with a traditional X-stand).

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Thanks everyone.

I ordered one. Musician's Friend had them on sale for 79.99. I also bought the 2nd tier. I went crazy and bought a new digital piano and bench too. ..... Then I had to call Hybrid and get a case for the piano. Someone has to stimulate the economy I guess it might as well be keyboard players. grin


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I've had the M91 stand w/second tier about a week now, and so far, so good with a P120, EMU B3 module, and PSR2000 aboard. The stand rocks (side to side only) a bit if pushed directly from either side, but when playing is very solid. Coming from an X-stand, the leg and foot room is a welcome change. Setup and teardown is more like fold up and unfold - quick and easy.

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I just got mine today.

I like the concept. The height is fine.

The only thing I don't like is the that one of the plastic collars that goes around where first tier slides into the left square tube is cracked all the way through leaving a piece of plastic hanging. I hate going through the hassle of sending it back. It is a gigging stand so I will probably just repair the thing with glue and rubber band it until it sets. It is going to be dinged up after a couple of months of being transported anyway. frown


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Re: Quik Lok M91 Monolith stand. [Re: CEB] #2114086 09/10/09 12:27 AM
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Oh no bigger problem The Monolith I received has the hole for the set bolts that secure the 2nd tier on the bottom of the tube. The tiers I received are designed for the holes to be on the sides. This sucks.

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Question about the 2nd tier.....

Does it have depth adjustment?

The 2nd tier to my QL X stand does and I find that feature most important. I like the open middle area on the M91. Looks like it would be perfect for a pedal board (and the back support bar to keep it in place).


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Originally Posted By: CEB
I just got mine today.

I like the concept. The height is fine.

The only thing I don't like is the that one of the plastic collars that goes around where first tier slides into the left square tube is cracked all the way through leaving a piece of plastic hanging. I hate going through the hassle of sending it back. It is a gigging stand so I will probably just repair the thing with glue and rubber band it until it sets. It is going to be dinged up after a couple of months of being transported anyway. frown


Take a photo and send it it to QuikLok. I'm sure they will send you a replacement part.

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Originally Posted By: CEB
Oh no bigger problem The Monolith I received has the hole for the set bolts that secure the 2nd tier on the bottom of the tube. The tiers I received are designed for the holes to be on the sides. This sucks.


On the M91 I have, the set bolts are on the inside of each bottom tier (when the stand is open) and they do not go into any holes in the top tier supports at all but simply press against each tier support to secure it.

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Mine has the 2nd tier screws on the bottom of the lower tier tube. The upper tier tubes slide into the lower ones, and can be positioned for desired depth then secured with the set screws. I have the uppers pushed in all the way which positions the top keyboard just where I want it.

The plastic "plugs" in the lower tier tubes were junk, and broke into pieces when I removed them. No biggie for me as I'll leave the uppers in most all the time anyway.

Overall, not a perfect stand, but beats the heck out of my X stand with second tier, which always seemed like an accident waiting to happen. I'm definitely happy with the purchase.

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I use the M91 with my KeyB, if your using pedals (I'm using Roland PK5) then they fit perfect inside with room for expression pedal etc. Heavier than most stands but very solid.


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Okay, so I ordered one and it finally came after two weeks. Turns out the second-tier add-ons could not be inserted because there were no holes for the screws. I returned it and got a two-tier X-stand instead.
What a dud.

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That is what I thought also.

My holes were on the bottom. The catalog pictures showed the older models with holes on the side. Also the tiers had holes in the side also. I am not sure what those were for but they arenot used to fix the tiers in place.

I used the bottom holes and it worked great.



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