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#2091752 - 06/30/09 10:24 AM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: steadyb]
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Originally Posted By: steadyb
That's a shame. I like Yao. Good player, good guy.


He really does seem like a good guy. And I really liked his winning spirit.
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#2091756 - 06/30/09 10:37 AM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: Jeff Klopmeyer]
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#2091764 - 06/30/09 10:58 AM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: kanker.]
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Originally Posted By: kanker.


Curry should have known better than to make that trade for Iverson. That was a rushed, depserate reaction to a bad season. snax
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#2091853 - 06/30/09 02:10 PM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: RABid]
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I always thought that was a poor decision...especially considering how good Billups is.

Teams really have to watch these big dramatic trades for players who don't make their offense run. Trades like Iverson or Vince Carter are rather dubious ones. I'm sure they hope that the person will not be a ball hog and will break down other teams' defenses, but it's a real crap shoot.

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#2091854 - 06/30/09 02:10 PM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: KenElevenShadows]
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#2091856 - 06/30/09 02:14 PM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: KenElevenShadows]
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Cleveland's looking to sign Charlie Villanueva next week at PF to replace Ben Wallace. Feee agent signing period begins next Thursday.

Pretty good front court right there--Lebron, Shaq and Ex-UConn player Charlie V.

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#2091857 - 06/30/09 02:15 PM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: richwhite9]
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I guess we'll see about that.

I'm telling you, don't be surprised if Shaq becomes a huge (literally) liability rather than an asset. And I am NOT a Shaq hater. I like the guy.
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#2091888 - 06/30/09 02:50 PM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: Jeff Klopmeyer]
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Trading for Iverson couldn't have just been Curry's decision. GM makes that decision ultimately.

IMO, his firing resulted from not being able to get consistent offensive play out their roster of talent. cool
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#2092174 - 07/01/09 11:57 AM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: Jeff Klopmeyer]
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Originally Posted By: Jeff Klopmeyer
I guess we'll see about that.

I'm telling you, don't be surprised if Shaq becomes a huge (literally) liability rather than an asset. And I am NOT a Shaq hater. I like the guy.


nah, Shaq will play great next year, he won't close to 2001 Shaq but he'll out play most centers and physically dominate all

not a liability, quite the opposite
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#2092198 - 07/01/09 12:46 PM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: Steve LeBlanc]
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The Rockets are trying to land Marcin Gortat.

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Rockets' General Manager Daryl Morey rang the door bell at Gortat's Orlando-area home at 12:01 AM July 1 - otherwise known as the beginning of the free agent frenzy - as part of a personal gesture to express Houston's desire to bring the big man into the fold. The Rockets have had Gortat on their radar screen since the midway point of the '08-09 season, when they - like many around the league - noticed the 25-year old post player regularly flashing his potential in the paint.

What's more, Morey is asking fans to aid in the recruitment process by sending Gortat a note at rocketsfanslovegortat@gmail.com to show how much they want him in a Rockets' uniform next season.

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#2092258 - 07/01/09 03:42 PM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: Joe Muscara]
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Cleveland is courting Ron Artest.

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#2092278 - 07/01/09 05:08 PM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: Joe Muscara]
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Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
Cleveland is courting Ron Artest.


wow, that would be something
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#2092284 - 07/01/09 05:20 PM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: Steve LeBlanc]
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EPSN reporting that Charlie Villaneuva and Ben Gordon have an agreement with the Pistons.

The UConn boards lit up as Detroit would be the first team to start 3 ex-Uconn players -- RIP Hamilton is at SF, CV at PF and BG at SG.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4301111

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#2092296 - 07/01/09 06:56 PM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: ProfD]
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Trading for Iverson couldn't have just been Curry's decision. GM makes that decision ultimately.


That was my point, in a sarcastic way.
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#2092299 - 07/01/09 07:12 PM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: Steve LeBlanc]
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Originally Posted By: Steve LeBlanc
Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
Cleveland is courting Ron Artest.


wow, that would be something

It looks like it or something is a done deal.

Originally Posted By: Ron Artest on Twitter
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#2092321 - 07/01/09 09:50 PM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: Joe Muscara]
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#2092322 - 07/01/09 10:06 PM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: Jeff Klopmeyer]
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#2092388 - 07/02/09 07:16 AM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: richwhite9]
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Originally Posted By: richwhite9
EPSN reporting that Charlie Villaneuva and Ben Gordon have an agreement with the Pistons.

The UConn boards lit up as Detroit would be the first team to start 3 ex-Uconn players -- RIP Hamilton is at SF, CV at PF and BG at SG.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4301111

I'm bummed about Chicago losing Gordon for nothing in return, but does anyone see him as a good fit in Detroit??? That lloks like a mess to me.

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#2092415 - 07/02/09 07:52 AM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: synthdogg]
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It's not looking good in Chicago. I don't see an improvement. Some nice draft picks but the rich are getting richer in the East.

Detroit is letting Iverson and his 20 million go as of last rumor. They can still deal a piece of two to shore up the C spot. Likely they re-sign Mcdyess and go with what they have and try to find some time for Gonzaga's Austin Daye at SF.

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#2092443 - 07/02/09 08:42 AM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: richwhite9]
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I am not a big Ben Gordon fan. He requires the ball too much, he's a way undersized 2 defensively. He's insanely streaky. That said he can be a dynamic scorer by all means. I'd LOVE him as a microwave type, but the basketball world is miscasting him as a franchise player.

Ariza would be a HUGE loss for LA. No way they win the title this year without his unique talents. He is a one man defensive wrecking crew. And his three point shooting makes him no liability on that end either. Who knows? Maybe's he's close to developing a multi-dimensional offensive game. Then he IS a young Ron Artest...without the paranoid schizophrenia.
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#2092465 - 07/02/09 09:05 AM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: Magpel]
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Originally Posted By: Magpel
Ariza would be a HUGE loss for LA.


I trust Kupchak and the rest of the management to do what they need to do, but I really do not want to lose Ariza. I hope that's salvageable. The story says they don't want (or can't) pay him above the mid-level exception, and his value went way up this year (duh). It's not a promising situation.
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#2092470 - 07/02/09 09:11 AM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: Magpel]
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Originally Posted By: Magpel
I am not a big Ben Gordon fan. ... the basketball world is miscasting him as a franchise player.

I'm a Bulls fan, and I agree with you on Gordon. I'm not at all sorry to see him go (especially for $11M/year).

It would seem only the Pistons are miscasting him as a franchise player.

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#2092476 - 07/02/09 09:17 AM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: Magpel]
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Originally Posted By: Magpel


Ariza would be a HUGE loss for LA. No way they win the title this year without his unique talents. He is a one man defensive wrecking crew. And his three point shooting makes him no liability on that end either. Who knows? Maybe's he's close to developing a multi-dimensional offensive game. Then he IS a young Ron Artest...without the paranoid schizophrenia.



I agree...Ariza's success this season is no fluke, he is the real deal and will get better. Chemistry is also so important, yes Artest would be a good fit for the Lakers and can do a lot of what Ariza does but c'mon, too risky. Ariza should feel insulted, he's practically a franchise player already and is just getting started...show him the money.
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#2092482 - 07/02/09 09:21 AM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: RABid]
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Originally Posted By: ProfD
Trading for Iverson couldn't have just been Curry's decision. GM makes that decision ultimately.


That was my point, in a sarcastic way.

Gotcha mayne. thu

With the current flurry of trades taking place, I think we'll see more heads on the chopping block next year. Especially if the high priced moves do no bear fruit, er, hardware. cool
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#2092505 - 07/02/09 10:03 AM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: Jeff Klopmeyer]
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That would be cool. thu

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#2092506 - 07/02/09 10:09 AM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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That would be cool. thu


No. No, it actually would not be cool. And I don't want those guys getting Artest either. In fact, no one with a last name starting with "A".
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#2092510 - 07/02/09 10:19 AM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: dongna]
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Originally Posted By: Magpel
I am not a big Ben Gordon fan. ... the basketball world is miscasting him as a franchise player.

I'm a Bulls fan, and I agree with you on Gordon. I'm not at all sorry to see him go (especially for $11M/year).

It would seem only the Pistons are miscasting him as a franchise player.


I don't think that's where the Pistons are valuing Gordon. When I think franchise players I think the 20 million dollar club. Gordon, Hamilton, and Prince are getting in 9.5 to 11 million a year. They are complimented by a group of young inexpensive players like Bynum and Stuckey at PG and The recently drafted Daye at SF.

Kwame Brown's 5 million comes off the books next year. Rasheed Wallace's 14 million and Iverson's 20 million are gone this year leaving them some decent room under the cap for next year to sign a F/C like Chris Bosh as their franchise player.


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#2092516 - 07/02/09 10:25 AM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: richwhite9]
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Originally Posted By: richwhite9
Kwame Brown's 5 million comes off the books next year.

Pardon my french but that guy hasn't done anything in the league to warrant that much money. rolleyes

I'm really surprised that he has been around this long. Luck is alive and well. cool
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#2092553 - 07/02/09 11:38 AM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: ProfD]
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What's Artest doing?

Originally Posted By: Ron Artest on Twitter
i just signed a deal


Originally Posted By: Ron Artest on Twitter
circuit city offered me a three year five pack duracell batteries per customer deal


He's messing with us. That was 12 hours ago. Then about an hour ago he posted this.

Originally Posted By: Ron Artest on Twitter
i just signed a multi hundred thousand denver nuggets. im so happy


Originally Posted By: Ron Artest on Twitter
my agent TYRESE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BEST IF I SIGN WITH DENVER. HE SAID THE NEXT TRANSFORMERS MOVIE WOULD BE FILMED IN MOUNTAINS


He's entertaining, if nothing else.

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#2092585 - 07/02/09 01:01 PM Re: Official NBA 2009-2010 Thread [Re: dongna]
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Originally Posted By: dongna
Originally Posted By: Magpel
I am not a big Ben Gordon fan. ... the basketball world is miscasting him as a franchise player.

I'm a Bulls fan, and I agree with you on Gordon. I'm not at all sorry to see him go (especially for $11M/year).

It would seem only the Pistons are miscasting him as a franchise player.


True, and there are times when it will pay off. I just don't see Ben as an efficient scorer, though frankly I was surprised to learn that his FG% is as high as it is. It's like, he gets to 46% or so by hitting 12 straight and then missing 14...

I don't mean to put him down. He was a critical player on a NCAA champion and absolutely gets the most out of his talent--he's just "not for me," I guess, as a leading scorer type.
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