#2087472 - 06/17/09 11:02 PM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
[Re: RedKey]
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I'm not one to argue.... but there isn't a single pipe in "Fix You". Totally a 9 drawbar clone. I'd go so far to Roland VK'esk. Never spins it up and plenty of higher bars pulled out. Knowing Coldplay, a preset.
Hmm, I don't know. To me it sounds pretty much exactly like the pipe organ I used to play every Sunday at my church gig. I'm sure it's a preset on some keyboard and not a real organ, but it sure sounds like the "pipe" variety to me. Can't put my finger on it exactly, but it's a different quality than a Hammond-type sound. More "breathy" maybe. Besides, the first electric organs were introduced as smaller, lower-cost versions of the pipe organ anyway, so every organ out there is really a "pipe clone!" Or "clonepipe" perhaps.
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#2087635 - 06/18/09 09:28 AM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
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So, is there any chance of an Electro 3 rack being released anytime soon?
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#2087642 - 06/18/09 09:42 AM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
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So, is there any chance of an Electro 3 rack being released anytime soon? From what Nord has told me, there are no current plans for an Electro 3 rack. I hope that changes
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#2087654 - 06/18/09 10:31 AM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
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Sounds like the C2 is just the instrument if you are a choir director and organist at a church.
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#2087930 - 06/19/09 03:40 AM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
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I'd say it's the ideal instrument for me, since I've never had full-fledged organ, and would like to learn all the different sides to organ playing, including classical. I've already learned Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D minor on the weighted keys and ugly organ patch on my Roland DP so that I can play it when the C2 arrives.
I have a question about knobs and MIDI and CC's and stuff. Can I use the various knobs and buttons on the Nord to, for instance, control an external synth's filter and resonance, or turn the glide on/off? Just generally assign parameters to the various knobs and buttons to control an external VA, is it possible? I guess that's what CControllers are supposed to do, but I'm not sure. My experience with MIDI is limited to the Roland D-50, which has no CC options whatsoever (besides being a pain in the ass to program, the extensive menu diving makes it not have many knobs or buttons.
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#2087998 - 06/19/09 07:20 AM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
[Re: BlackenedJustice]
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I haven't heard anything on the C2 demos on Nord's website to suggest that it has registrations capable of simulating huge pipe organs - all the ones on the demos sound very "chamber-ish" to me.
In a way, that challenge is even bigger than the "real moving air" quandry faced by Hammond clones. Even more air!
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#2088711 - 06/21/09 01:21 PM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
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http://www.nordkeyboards.com/home/Visit0604/Visit06.jpgSo I guess this one is ready to hit the stores. What do you reckon, beginning of July? EDIT: Damn, I love the slightly darker red tinge. That combined with the 2 manuals, the little curved shape on the sides and the overall layout of the controls make it IMO the most beautiful Nord so far. Damn, I'm full of GAS. EDIT2: Hmm, just checked on eBay, and there's already 3 sellers selling the C2. Is it usual for keyboards to "leak" ala CDs? Sellers starting to sell when they get their copies instead of when they get an okay from Nord?
Edited by BlackenedJustice (06/21/09 02:16 PM)
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#2088726 - 06/21/09 02:21 PM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
[Re: BlackenedJustice]
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More like sellers selling vapor.
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#2088730 - 06/21/09 03:08 PM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
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They have very high ratings, do you really think so?
Plus I've seen similar prices (around €2400)on other websites that are also listing them for sale.
Edited by BlackenedJustice (06/21/09 03:23 PM)
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#2088767 - 06/21/09 06:28 PM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
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They may come through, but I'll bet that they do not have stock at this very moment.
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#2088773 - 06/21/09 06:41 PM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
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That's one very impractical keyboard stand  
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#2088776 - 06/21/09 06:48 PM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
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Thats about $60,000 worth of keyboards in that pic
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#2088845 - 06/22/09 01:05 AM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
[Re: Mogut]
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There's something about those red varnished sides that make me almost cream my pants. It's seriously one of the nicest reds out there.
Hmm, can anyone help me with my MIDI question up there:
"I have a question about knobs and MIDI and CC's and stuff. Can I use the various knobs and buttons on the Nord to, for instance, control an external synth's filter and resonance, or turn the glide on/off? Just generally assign parameters to the various knobs and buttons to control an external VA, is it possible? I guess that's what CControllers are supposed to do, but I'm not sure. My experience with MIDI is limited to the Roland D-50, which has no CC options whatsoever (besides being a pain in the ass to program, the extensive menu diving makes it not have many knobs or buttons."
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#2088978 - 06/22/09 11:40 AM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
[Re: BlackenedJustice]
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I have just received an e-mail from Tomas confirming that the first batch of C2s has left the factory. And someone please answer my question.
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#2088982 - 06/22/09 11:43 AM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
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I have just received an e-mail from Tomas confirming that the first batch of C2s has left the factory. And someone please answer my question. Legit retailers will occasionally pre-sell instruments when delivery is pending. As long as they're upfront about it, I suppose it's cool
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#2089219 - 06/23/09 02:55 AM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
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So, it seems that neither the Pedal Keys 27 nor the new stand will be available now. Tomas said they're still putting the final touches and it's only gonna be available later this year.
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#2091176 - 06/28/09 12:13 PM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
[Re: BlackenedJustice]
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Hi everyone, Could anyone tell me something about the C2, especially about connecting it to other devices? I am thinking about buying one, but would like to know some details. 1. Would I be able to plug in the Roland PK-7 bass pedal unit (by MIDI)? 2. Does the expression pedal work through the jack-plug? 3. If I want to expand the C2 with a synthesizer, how would that work with the expression pedal? These seem to be questions for the manufacturer, but I didn't manage to get information from them. Also, I have been thinking about other instruments (yamaha d-deck, tyros, wersi etc.), but I am essentially a Hammond-/theatre organ player, so a set- up with a Hammond-like basis, plus some synthesizer sounds (responding to the expression pedal) would be ideal for me. Thanks for any replies!
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#2091300 - 06/29/09 05:16 AM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
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I haven't checked out the bass pedal unit, but yes, it has and extra MIDI in jack in OMNI mode dedicated to connecting bass pedals, so you'll probably be able to do it. I don't know exactly what you mean by the second question, though. You're supposed to connect the expression pedal to the dedicated input jack, yes, if that's what you're asking. You must however have a stereo output from the pedal and always use a stereo cable between the pedal and the pedal input on the C2. I believe the C1 sends swell pedal position as a CC over MIDI. So, depending on the synthesizer you want to connect it to, this might have a different result. Check with your synth to see what CC value it has assigned to the swell pedal input. If it's different than the one the C1 sends, you'll probably need a MIDI remapper inbetween the 2 devices. However, I believe that since it's a pretty standardized parameter, they might have the same MIDI CC number by default. I'm assuming that the C2 will have the same MIDI capabilities as the C1, so if you have any further question, just check the C1 manual. EDIT: You can read about a MIDI configuration that I'll try to set up when I get the C2 in my thread: http://forums.musicplayer.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2089268/MIDI_CC_s_question#Post2089268
Edited by BlackenedJustice (06/29/09 05:26 AM)
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#2092492 - 07/02/09 09:41 AM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
[Re: BlackenedJustice]
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Ok, so the C2 is out now!
Every piece of info and the manual is on their website.
Turns out that MIDI settings are indeed global, so I'll probably have to buy a MIDISolutions Events Processor to do what I intended to.
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#2092944 - 07/04/09 12:25 AM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
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I have seen another page on the C2 with a different layout. Maybe there is some additional information on it: http://www.nordkeyboards.com/downloads/Nord%20C2%20folder.pdf . Thanks for your reply by the way. I am not familiar with MIDI and other connections, that's why I asked the question about the pedal connection. I was thinking about using my old Roland Juno 106, but I know that is was (one of) the first synth(s) having MIDI, so it won't have the latest features. I'll probably just have to try, and also get some information on MIDI for myself.
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#2094686 - 07/09/09 02:34 PM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
[Re: paulamsterdam]
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Thinking about the future now. Once I get the C2, I'll either:
A) be capable of playing piano/e-piano/clav/etc. on it, and in the future get and Electro 2 rack (or Electro 3, if they ever come out(or even Electro 4, since I don't know how far into the future I'll feel this need). Or just keep playing VSTi's through it, and bring the laptop to gigs. Not my prefered scenario, though.
B) not be capable of playing piano/e-piano/clav/etc. on it, and in the future get a Nord Stage in whatever version it'll be at, which hopefully will also support playing samples from the sample library.
C) not be capable of playing piano/e-piano/clav/etc. on it, and in the future get a Nord Electro 3/4, in case the Stage still not featuring samples from the library.
The reason I still haven't decided is because I'm not very familiar with organ action overall, I've only played fully weighted piano keys and not weighted at all synth-keys. I'll probably end up getting a Nord Electro 3 1 year and a half from now, it seems like the perfect board for the bread & butter sounds I need.
For now, I'll dedicate myself to learning organ, and plug the C2 into my laptop for some Rhodes and Moog sounds.
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#2094790 - 07/09/09 10:34 PM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
[Re: BlackenedJustice]
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still no audio demo clips of this thing. Just poor quality youtube vids
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#2094814 - 07/10/09 04:02 AM
Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ
[Re: Mogut]
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There were some audio demos of the pipe organ in the nord website. I have them saved up in my pc, if you want them let me know. Besides, I'll probably be getting a C2 next week, my local dealer already has it in stock, so if you want, I could demo it myself.
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