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#2058230 - 03/27/09 06:15 PM Nord C2 Combo Organ
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Anyone will be interested in this new one?

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#2058265 - 03/27/09 08:57 PM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: jlr]
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I predict a winner.

The pedal board weighs as much as the C2. Great new stand and music rack.

Not as pretty as an XK set up but better than the C1 legs.

And its not red. Hmmmm.....


Edited by richwhite9 (03/27/09 09:00 PM)

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#2058270 - 03/27/09 09:10 PM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: richwhite9]
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I think the stand is unnecessarily ugly. I agree that the pedals are intriguing. Wonder why they did 27 instead of 25 though.

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#2058276 - 03/27/09 09:40 PM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: richwhite9]
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#2058278 - 03/27/09 09:44 PM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: jlr]
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Originally Posted By: jlr
Anyone will be interested in this new one?

www.nordkeyboards.com


In my case not a replacement of my favorite clone but I like it a lot and would be a nice ultralight edition for those of us with C.A.S. (Clone Acquisition Syndrome). Notice they do not show the bench. Hopefully, a bench will be more reasonable than the $855 fold-up bench HS offers, imho, mostly just welded aluminum tubing. Odd that there are not more M.I. benches that go over 25 (or 27 pedals). Reminds me a little bit (the pedals) of that Consolette that was around. That webpage was down for a while when I was looking for pedals later buying B3P pedals and making a conversion box. http://www.rwdesigns.org/ One thing for sure, I think the clone market should have more choices for stands and benches, in fact, I bought a welder (hobby) to make my own (aluminum)

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#2058280 - 03/27/09 09:50 PM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: mate_stubb]
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> Wonder why they did 27 instead of 25 though.

Probably 'AGO-Lite' since it is supposed to be a pipe organ clone and not just a Hammond organ clone.

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#2058282 - 03/27/09 09:53 PM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: WheelHead]
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*Gasp!* A half moon switch! shocked I want I want!

(Did you notice how much they focused on the pipe organ stuff? I don't know who would use it, but that's pretty cool. I wonder if they're trying to sell to churches.)

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#2058290 - 03/27/09 10:38 PM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: Joe Muscara]
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Now we know why the Electro got the C1 engine...
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#2058297 - 03/27/09 11:22 PM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: kanker.]
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Straight pedals? Weird.

No thanks.
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#2058299 - 03/27/09 11:28 PM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: kanker.]
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Damn, and I was all set to buy an E3.


Not gonna lie, I'd use the pipe organ. Good for nice, ominous intros and the like. thu

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#2058311 - 03/28/09 02:38 AM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: SMcD]
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As a church organist myself, I don't get this one at all, to be honest. I don't see who they're going to sell it to, presuming it doesn't replace the C1.

If a church doesn't already have a decent pipe organ installed (and which organist would then choose to play a clone), then they've already probably bought, or will buy, one of the many electronic models already out there by established specialist organ makers like Makin, Johannes or Allen.

Sure, those organs are by no stretch of the imagination portable, but that isn't usually a requirement for most churches - these things normally stay put. And they look the part. Churches are notoriously conservative, even if the red has been toned down for the C2.

So that leaves who? Classical organists who practice at home? Again, they will probably prefer a more specialist device from the ranges previously mentioned. There is again usually no imperative for things to be portable in such situations.

Also, as Jim points out, that straight pedal board design would preclude serious church players who want to practise at home. Might pick up a few existing C1 and other clonewheel owners at the right price, I guess.


Edited by Aidan (03/28/09 04:42 AM)
Edit Reason: price, not place
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#2058316 - 03/28/09 03:51 AM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: Aidan]
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So - nothing new in the Tonehwheel-engine besides better key click? Ok, new output routing possibilities and they moved some controls... tired It would been more interrestning if it got pianos or some other sample playing abilities a la NE3 and/or pitch stick & mod wheel with an extern section like the Stage. If you're not a really big fan of pipe organ - I see no reason to trade your C1 for a C2, well well... I'm hoping for a new revolutionary stage model before this year is over - they have all the pieces with the C1 (C2?), the Wave, NE3 and the Stage - just put it together (and include the G2X gooseneck vocoder thu) and sell it for a reasonable price - pleeaze! grin

The pedals on the other hand! grin Hope they have standard midi connection and not an astronomical price like Hammond and Rolands offerrings... these would be nice with my XK1 perhaps... smile well well... smile
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#2058356 - 03/28/09 07:33 AM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: mr_T]
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I was wondering about the straight pedals too. I wonder if that's a price thing, seeing as how Nord seems to make such an effort to get the ergonomics of these boards right. Oh well, maybe the C3…

And kanker's comment about the C1 in the E3 makes sense.

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#2058370 - 03/28/09 08:21 AM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: Joe Muscara]
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$5 to the first person who can make the C2 pipe organ relevant in a modern pop context! I can see this sound getting huge all of a sudden on the dance hall scene.

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#2058376 - 03/28/09 08:49 AM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: eric]
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Straight pedals is a European thang. They are found on most historic organs.

The concave radiating standard (which Hammond does not conform to anyway with the B-3) was created I believe in the 30's or 40's in America.
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#2058385 - 03/28/09 09:05 AM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: eric]
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Originally Posted By: eric
$5 to the first person who can make the C2 pipe organ relevant in a modern pop context!
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#2058394 - 03/28/09 09:42 AM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: mate_stubb]
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Originally Posted By: mate_stubb
I think the stand is unnecessarily ugly. I agree that the pedals are intriguing. Wonder why they did 27 instead of 25 though.



Yep, the stand is ugly, but not necessary for the players who don´t need the pedals.
I like the darker red as well as the moved controls for percussion and chorus/vibrato,- that´s an improvemnt for me.

Monitoring a 2nd keyboard or a complete rig by using a small mixer (not only mp3 or other players) via the headphones out might be interesting too. Imagine a monitor line of the band in addition by using a mixer and in-ear system connected to the headphones out.

Expanded output routing is a nice addition too.

So, what´s the price ? Same as C1 ?

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#2058402 - 03/28/09 10:06 AM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: Al Coda]
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Actually, I don't think including the C1 engine in the NE3 has anything to do with them planning the C2 since the organ in the NE3 includes increased adjustability to the C1 engine. If anything, they have just made the same updates to the C1 so it matches the NE3, at least as far as the tonewheel set goes.
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#2058404 - 03/28/09 10:14 AM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: Calumet]
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One other detail they fumbled, and need to fix before production:

- they moved the percussion switches to the right place, but bolloxed up the order.

Should be On, Soft, Slow, 2nd, NOT On, Slow, Soft, 2nd.
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#2058410 - 03/28/09 10:27 AM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: mate_stubb]
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Originally Posted By: mate_stubb
Straight pedals is a European thang. They are found on most historic organs.

The concave radiating standard (which Hammond does not conform to anyway with the B-3) was created I believe in the 30's or 40's in America.


The pedals on a B3 are not concave, but they do radiate.
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#2058423 - 03/28/09 10:57 AM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: B3-er]
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Does either the c-1 0r c-2 have the light touch when you barely touch it like a B-3? I know my stage doesn't. If so I'm gonna buy.

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#2058457 - 03/28/09 12:44 PM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: jlr]
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I wonder how much they paid Hammond for the rights to the "C2" name....as I recall they had issues calling the C1 a "C3" and had to change it...... C2 to me is still a Hammond model pre-1955....

I hope those pedals will upfit my C1

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#2058461 - 03/28/09 01:12 PM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: mate_stubb]
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Originally Posted By: mate_stubb
I think the stand is unnecessarily ugly.


I have a MIG welder and a bandsaw,I could make something like that in a couple hours out in the garage.

They should develop a stand out of chrome,or polished aluminum,or brushed stainless,for the C1,C2,Electro and Stage.

I'm seeing more and more bands using only a Nord,why not show it off a little?

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#2058489 - 03/28/09 03:47 PM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: yorgatron]
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how about this,does anyone here live near San Jose Ca. and would let me measure their Nord,so I could build a custom stand,with the intent of marketing them?

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#2058508 - 03/28/09 05:13 PM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: B3-er]
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Originally Posted By: mate_stubb
Straight pedals is a European thang. They are found on most historic organs.

The concave radiating standard (which Hammond does not conform to anyway with the B-3) was created I believe in the 30's or 40's in America.


The pedals on a B3 are not concave, but they do radiate.


Yup. The standard is 32 note, concave, and radiating. Concert Hammond models like the RT-3 do have them, but the organ has to be wider to accommodate the extra pedal notes.
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#2058604 - 03/29/09 02:43 AM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: mate_stubb]
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Yorgatron, I pm'd you.

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#2058625 - 03/29/09 08:02 AM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: bhodaway10]
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You don't think Nord has discovered planned obsolesence do you - like the US car companies used to do. Bring out a new model; make the "old" one passe? Naw...they'd never do a thing like that...
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#2058630 - 03/29/09 08:49 AM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: daviel]
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Has it been ascertained yet whether the C2 actually replaces the C1?
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#2058640 - 03/29/09 09:10 AM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: Aidan]
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Originally Posted By: Aidan
Has it been ascertained yet whether the C2 actually replaces the C1?
I can't imagine them offering both models.
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#2058652 - 03/29/09 10:02 AM Re: Nord C2 Combo Organ [Re: kanker.]
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Originally Posted By: kanker.
Originally Posted By: Aidan
Has it been ascertained yet whether the C2 actually replaces the C1?
I can't imagine them offering both models.


They offer the NE2 alongside the NE3 on their webpage.

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