#2054381 - 03/16/09 02:43 PM
Tech 21 Blonde Delivers High headroom Direct Cleans !
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#2054426 - 03/16/09 05:04 PM
Re: Tech 21 Blonde Delivers High headroom Direct Cleans !
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THAT is FAT, yZe! Nice fat, round, full, warm tones without sounding muffled. And very "natural", too! I like how softly-picked, gently squeezed little notes kinda subtly morph in tone as they fade.
That's the kind of clean-tone I'd want to be heard wearing!
Do you get that kind of clean tone "live"? Does the Blonde pedal figure into your live rig at all?
I bet that putting the Blonde after some overdrive/distortion/fuzz pedals would sound nice, too, fattening 'em up and adding more depth of complexity...
Give us the full bird's-eye low-down on the caper, what was the signal-chain, from the guitar to the software and EVERYTHING in-between?
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#2054461 - 03/16/09 07:11 PM
Re: Tech 21 Blonde Delivers High headroom Direct Cleans !
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I'll be experimenting w/live apps at a duo gig this wknd. I'll keep you posted on live band apps w/bass and drums I did test it out through the pro audio dept main pa rig direct at Sam ash, and that's why I bought the pedal  The signal chain yZeAxe>Blonde>Tascam USB 144 interface>MacBookPro>Garage Band w/Matrix Reverb thanks for listening
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#2054578 - 03/17/09 07:08 AM
Re: Tech 21 Blonde Delivers High headroom Direct Cleans !
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 This the Blonde you're hangin' with? Here's a Jazz Times review of the Tech 21 Blonde that I ran across; I think you'll find that their reviewer agrees with you and your application of the pedal... That Tascam USB-interface sounds like a good piece of gear to have, too. Is there any sort of guitar-amp and/or speaker/cab modeling going on in Garage Band there, or are you using it strictly as a virtual recording-console? Off the path of clean tone you were going for, but I betcha that it'd sound good having fuzz/octave-fuzz > overdrive/distortion > Blonde pedals in that order, in various combinations of what was on and what was off... I've been really enjoying running my (J. Everman) Octave-X and (Radial Tonebone) Plexitube pedals together, in that order, into a squeaky-clean but tubey amp-model in my DigiTech GNX4 that I tweaked to my liking. Beautiful! Fat cleans, fat overdrive/distortion, crisp and tinkly but never tinny Octavia-style octave-fuzz, and fat pillowy-smoothed octave-fuzztortion, all there on-tap! It's like those two pedals and that program were made for each other! Serendipity, actualized... I bet that Tech 21 Blonde pedal would be another good "clean-amp" unit to put after the Plexitube, like I'm using the GNX4... Could be a good alternative... Sometimes I also kick in an MXR Blue Box in front of the Octave-X AND Plexitube for some monstrous multi-octave buzztortion; and I've usually got my Sustainiac Model C "pedal" on for feedback on-tap, effectively upstream of everything, which beautifully enhances all of the above. (Even the cleans.)
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#2054601 - 03/17/09 08:05 AM
Re: Tech 21 Blonde Delivers High headroom Direct Cleans !
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Is there any sort of guitar-amp and/or speaker/cab modeling going on in Garage Band there, or are you using it strictly as a virtual recording-console?
there are amp models, but i don't believe that they are segregable from any speaker simulation, if there is any. The only Garage Band plug-in I used was reverb, that's it. Everything else was 100% the Blonde wow, your config sunds like fun, particularly since I have slowly developed the desire to want a fuzz ! Hmmmmm, the sustainiac gig sounds pretty cool. I'll check it out I think the next thing I will try is the Ep-Pre into the Blonde http://www.clinchfx.com/ep-prein the meantime, here's an OD clip http://soundclick.com/share?songid=7430921all direct
Edited by yZe (03/17/09 08:20 AM)
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#2054682 - 03/17/09 10:44 AM
Re: Tech 21 Blonde Delivers High headroom Direct Cleans !
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Hehh-hehh... y'should've called that clip "Dirty Blonde"! Niiiiiice... the usual, come to be expected yZe course of action...  Pretty smooth sounding. I see that the Blonde has its own, on-board, always-on Jensen-colored speaker-simulation. And , that the Blonde is essentially a SansAmp that's been tweaked and optimized to favor vintage Fender flavors; good idea. That Clinch EP-PRE sounds like a brilliant idea, and definitely one of those "why didn't anybody think of this before" concepts! (As much as many people go on about the tonal benefits of TUBE Echoplexes used effectively as preamps, I'd think that someone would have come up with a similar idea for a tube-based preamp or preamp/pedal.) Very interesting... And, yeah, that should go nicely with the Blonde. Might getcha a touch of that Dumble/Fuchs sheen... To give you an idea of some of what the Sustainiac can do in a completely D/I application, here's a "rhythm guitar" track from a work-in-progress (transferred to my PC by less than ideal means), going- LP > Sustainiac > GNX4 -using that clean-toned model/program that I mentioned before, and originally recorded on the GNX4. I'm not sure if I was using the bridge-pickup, or the neck-pickup through a floored Fulltone Clyde Deluxe... Can't remember which and it sounds a little like either!! (It was a semi-improvised test-run pass that I decided to keep, "live"/first and only take, untouched.) Sustainiac used somewhat mildly for a loud/clean-amp feedback sort of thing (the 'verb and ping-pong echo are the GNX4). Li'l Brother MidnightIt's no shred-fest, and it has its clams, but it has its charms, as well! I'll get some lead-tracks using the Sustainiac, Plexitube, and Octave-X up soon...
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#2054761 - 03/17/09 01:28 PM
Re: Tech 21 Blonde Delivers High headroom Direct Cleans !
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Hehh-hehh... y'should've called that clip "Dirty Blonde"!
ha, ha - WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT. I will change the title after this post - LOL! To give you an idea of some of what the Sustainiac can do in a completely D/I application, here's a "rhythm guitar" track from a work-in-progress (transferred to my PC by less than ideal means),
I checked the clips. Pretty original sounding concept. I really dig the feedback interspersed w/the jazz chords - kind of a juxtaposition  I am wondering how that would sound w/a cmbo of volume swells w/a vol pedal plus longer reverb &/or delay Nice rich cleans ya got goin geez Kev and yZe awesome direct tones. i am thinking the British Tech21 would be my ideal toy. i just love the Marshall crunch. even though those tones are sweet from the Gnx4 and Blonde. really sweet. Okay, all Sam Ash had was the British, so I checked it direct through their PA system, and I was stunned. It sounds just like a 4-12 cab pumpin out that sound. Goes from medium to JCM gain no prob. Since i was needing a clean amp for gigs in order to spike w/pedals, I had to special order the Blonde. If I had the cash lying around, i would get the British in a heartbeat. Excellent direct crunch.
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#2054786 - 03/17/09 02:34 PM
Re: Tech 21 Blonde Delivers High headroom Direct Cleans !
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"I am wondering how that would sound w/a cmbo of volume swells w/a vol pedal plus longer reverb &/or delay..." Oh, I love all manner of volume-swells, from "pinky"/volume-knob fiddlin', to volume-pedals, to what I call "misguided noise-gates", to my Guyatone SV2 (think improved & shrink-rayed Boss 'Slow Gear' style auto-swell pedal); and that sort of envelope-manipulation often sounds great swingin' a tail made from a trail of echoes and reverb-erations. Throwing feedback generated from any source into that mix only enhances the whole thing; been there, done that. Now, that Sustainiac gizmo (this is the one that clamps a vibrating transducer on your headstock to induce acoustic feedback, not the pickup/magnetic string-driver type) can really push the feedback; I have to use an extra amount of damping and muting with my hands and fingers to keep it controlled feedback. I often roll-back the guitar's volume just a smidgen to tame it, and back up again to let it take off. Sometimes it's all I can do to shut the damn thing up short of turning it off, if I've got it dialed-in to an aggressive setting! I'll have to try to make a clip of such noodlin' for ya. If ya promise you won't laugh too hard at my less than shredderiffic technical prowess! (My nails got trashed recently, as well, and that's like you losing or mangling your only pick...)So what'll it be, clean or dirty? Chords, leads? How many ms of delay?
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#2054887 - 03/17/09 07:45 PM
Re: Tech 21 Blonde Delivers High headroom Direct Cleans !
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"I am wondering how that would sound w/a cmbo of volume swells w/a vol pedal plus longer reverb &/or delay..." Oh, I love all manner of volume-swells, from "pinky"/volume-knob fiddlin', to volume-pedals, to what I call "misguided noise-gates", to my Guyatone SV2 (think improved & shrink-rayed Boss 'Slow Gear' style auto-swell pedal); and that sort of envelope-manipulation often sounds great swingin' a tail made from a trail of echoes and reverb-erations. Throwing feedback generated from any source into that mix only enhances the whole thing; been there, done that. Now, that Sustainiac gizmo (this is the one that clamps a vibrating transducer on your headstock to induce acoustic feedback, not the pickup/magnetic string-driver type) can really push the feedback; I have to use an extra amount of damping and muting with my hands and fingers to keep it controlled feedback. I often roll-back the guitar's volume just a smidgen to tame it, and back up again to let it take off. Sometimes it's all I can do to shut the damn thing up short of turning it off, if I've got it dialed-in to an aggressive setting! I'll have to try to make a clip of such noodlin' for ya. If ya promise you won't laugh too hard at my less than shredderiffic technical prowess! (My nails got trashed recently, as well, and that's like you losing or mangling your only pick...)So what'll it be, clean or dirty? Chords, leads? How many ms of delay? yes.
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#2055381 - 03/18/09 06:46 PM
Re: Tech 21 Blonde Delivers High headroom Direct Cleans !
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Go for the same thing in the original clip, just with tapped 8ths or 1/4's. If no tap mode, then a reasonable "arena delay" ?
swells w/the volume pedal to boot
Edited by yZe (03/18/09 06:46 PM)
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#2056647 - 03/22/09 08:04 AM
Re: Tech 21 Blonde Delivers High headroom Direct Cleans !
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wel, just did a 3-nighter as a duo
I tell ya, as somewhat of A corksniffer, I did not miss my tubes using this pedal. I had high headroom cleans all night, and the pedal was not dull or un-interesting
It went guit>Boss TU2 (as a buffer)>Clinch FX EP-Pre>Tech 21 Blonde>Line 6 M 13> Mixer
Setting the mixer w/eq's at noon was the ticket
the EP-Pre really gets this pedal sizzlin'
so nice to not have to lug an amp
The verdict is out now on these things
A. How it cuts w/ live drums & Bass B.How to set up OD pedals w/ it when going direct
Edited by yZe (03/22/09 08:07 AM)
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#2056805 - 03/22/09 05:23 PM
Re: Tech 21 Blonde Delivers High headroom Direct Cleans !
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Awesome tone and great recording and performance! I briefly owned this pedal but it's only fault was that the Tech 21 Character Series British pedal was able to get a very similar clean tone. Since I already owned the British pedal, I sent the Blonde pedal back. Great pedals though, and there's really not a bad sound in the Blonde pedal. So, if you can only afford one pedal, I would recommend the British one.
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#2056827 - 03/22/09 05:58 PM
Re: Tech 21 Blonde Delivers High headroom Direct Cleans !
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So, if you can only afford one pedal, I would recommend the British one. With all respect justly due in that you have tried both pedals, I will have to dissent: I too demoed both pedals EXTENSIVELY through a big FOH mixer/speaker config at Sam Ash. I was looking for the character pedal that delivered the best high headroom cleans & the Blonde was NOTICEABLY better at that WITH Low output HUMBUCKERS Your clean tones are no doubt sparkly clean WITH A STRAT, but you have no clips w/buckers. THe cleans for the British lacked the high end sizzle while being able to stay clean at the same time, and also broke up too soon as far as attempting to reconcile the unity gain volume of the mixer when the pedal was off. NOW, for some killer @$$ meaty low to high overdriven marshall tones the British is a Godsend ! Since, I "could only afford one pedal"; I had to pic the blonde because all of my tests were solely based on looking for the right clean tone My tests were based on playing hard funk rhythms & Bebop jazz stylings, both of which require high headroom cleans with brightness, and hard pick attack. The british just could not achieve those things that the Blonde, w/minimal effort, could
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#2057739 - 03/25/09 07:32 AM
Re: Tech 21 Blonde Delivers High headroom Direct Cleans !
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So, if you can only afford one pedal, I would recommend the British one. With all respect justly due in that you have tried both pedals, I will have to dissent: I too demoed both pedals EXTENSIVELY through a big FOH mixer/speaker config at Sam Ash. I was looking for the character pedal that delivered the best high headroom cleans & the Blonde was NOTICEABLY better at that WITH Low output HUMBUCKERS Your clean tones are no doubt sparkly clean WITH A STRAT, but you have no clips w/buckers. THe cleans for the British lacked the high end sizzle while being able to stay clean at the same time, and also broke up too soon as far as attempting to reconcile the unity gain volume of the mixer when the pedal was off. NOW, for some killer @$$ meaty low to high overdriven marshall tones the British is a Godsend ! Since, I "could only afford one pedal"; I had to pic the blonde because all of my tests were solely based on looking for the right clean tone My tests were based on playing hard funk rhythms & Bebop jazz stylings, both of which require high headroom cleans with brightness, and hard pick attack. The british just could not achieve those things that the Blonde, w/minimal effort, could I should have mentioned that I bought and tested my pedals exclusively in the direct recording realm. While it would be similar to connecting to a mixer for live sound, there are differences. I have had nice results recording with the British pedal w/ humbuckers with a clean tone setting. Check out "Symmetry Samples" on myspace page, especially around the 1:00 mark: http://www.myspace.com/chrismanning3 Glad you are enjoying the blonde pedal. One of the best line of pedals to come out in a while IMO.
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#2057879 - 03/25/09 12:32 PM
Re: Tech 21 Blonde Delivers High headroom Direct Cleans !
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awesome songrwriting, and playing chris ! Very inspiring
Yeah those cleans w/the bucekrs at 1:00 are good for rock cleans, as I had discovered. The thing is that I was looking to get some deep jazz clean and spanky funk w/the buckers, which I couldn't get w/the British.
It's like the cleans were "woodier" w/the Blonde
I still want all 3 character pedals, because I like to rock, too
How does the Brit perform going through an amp as a stompbox?
Sems like the cab sim could get in the way
Edited by yZe (03/25/09 12:32 PM)
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#2057979 - 03/25/09 03:13 PM
Re: Tech 21 Blonde Delivers High headroom Direct Cleans !
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It's like the cleans were "woodier" w/the Blonde Which is how I'd characterize the diff between clean tones from "tweed" and "blonde" Fender style amps, and clean tones from Marshall style amps. Which is pretty cool for you to find in a pedal like that. I'm more likely to check one of those out for myself sometime after reading this thread.
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#2076109 - 05/18/09 09:00 AM
Re: Tech 21 Blonde Delivers High headroom Direct Cleans !
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Alright, the latest blonde clip http://soundclick.com/share?songid=7612593Rig Details on that page
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#2076385 - 05/18/09 08:20 PM
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http://soundclick.com/share?songid=7430823
Just what i've been looking for Nice
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#2076400 - 05/18/09 10:40 PM
Re: Tech 21 Blonde Delivers High headroom Direct Cleans !
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http://soundclick.com/share?songid=7430823
Just what i've been looking for Nice there's a newer clip a few posts up, but the ghetto-ized software here won't allow me to edit the first post 
Edited by yZe (05/18/09 10:41 PM)
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#2076862 - 05/20/09 06:01 AM
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Hey man...nice lines at :38 and 1:13. ] Ha ha, the :38 is a VERBATIM RIP-OFF of a Robben Ford line in "Rush Hour" on the out chorus ! THe 1:13 was from the hip, though  Check the original a few posts up, I wasn't able to add it in the first post, because this forum blocks editing after a while 
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#2077066 - 05/20/09 03:43 PM
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http://soundclick.com/share?songid=7430823 Just what i've been looking for Nice there's a newer clip a few posts up, but the ghetto-ized software here won't allow me to edit the first post Yep I listened to both, still excellent tone and very good playing.
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#2130412 - 10/31/09 06:29 PM
Re: Tech 21 Blonde Delivers High headroom Direct Cleans !
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Yhup; yZe's direct-recording signal-chain for the solo was:
Guitar >Real Tube Overdrive Pedal >Clinch FX EP-PRE >Tech 21 Blonde >Tascam USB 144 Interface >Mac Book Pro >Garage Band
His guitar for the solo is a custom, the "yZe axe".
He hasn't been around here for a while, so I PM'd him about your recent reply-post here, on your behalf...
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