#2128376 - 10/25/09 11:00 AM
Re: The Reharm Room
[Re: SK]
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Although this isn't quite what you guys are talking about, since a few days I have the idea of somehow getting hold of a top notch big band/jazz orchestra, a singer who sounds absolutely like Sinatra, then arrange "I thought about you" in show big band style and, after a long expectation-building intro, let the singer sing lines like "I shaved my armpit today, and I thought about you". Just watching the audience during the perfomance would be worth the work for me. However, that's just me. 
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#2128531 - 10/25/09 09:48 PM
Re: The Reharm Room
[Re: Mo 'Wurst]
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Ok guys and girls, here's my version of Burt Bacharach's "Alfie", which I had hoped to include in the latest KC comp. Unfortunately, only recently I've had the chance to record it with a real piano (Yamaha C3), then I've added a (very) fake double bass at home, courtesy of my K2600. It's in fact preset 41, "String Bass", unedited. I hope that by listening to it, the reason why I didn't want to record it with a sampled piano will be clear. It's a rather intimate version, suitable for an Evans-type piano trio. The timing of the bass is a bit out in spots, 'cause I've played the piano part rather freely, so overdubbing with perfect sync was a challenge. Also, about the recent discussion about just *why* to reharm perfectly good songs...  Well, in my case, I see it as an art in itself, like composing, arranging, or improvising. When you do it for a long time, you reach a level where you don't think about the technique anymore; you have a certain vision of the song, and you simply do your best to get it to the audience, and to convey a certain atmosphere that you have in mind. Alfie There's a little intro, but it should be very clear where the theme begins. Enjoy. Edit: I've noticed that in my little computer system, the bass is almost inaudible... (on the system where I mixed, if was loud and clear) Can you hear the bass? If not, I could remix it with more bass in it. The bass is quite important to anchor the voicings.
Edited by marino (10/25/09 09:53 PM)
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#2128621 - 10/26/09 07:47 AM
Re: The Reharm Room
[Re: marino]
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Very pretty, Carlo. It draws out the quality of the song in different ways but still in an organic way. Nice.  I could hear the bass fine - it added nicely to the music, but a little fuller bass sound would be even better. Also, about the recent discussion about just *why* to reharm perfectly good songs...  Well, in my case, I see it as an art in itself, like composing, arranging, or improvising. When you do it for a long time, you reach a level where you don't think about the technique anymore; you have a certain vision of the song, and you simply do your best to get it to the audience, and to convey a certain atmosphere that you have in mind. What you describe is the way I think of playing in general, if we throw out all the approach terms like reharm/arranging/writing. It's about the music we make, nothing else. In that broad sense, I agree.
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#2128863 - 10/26/09 09:27 PM
Re: The Reharm Room
[Re: SK]
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OK, here is a new mix of "Alfie" with a little more bass on it. The link in the original post has been updated as well. The harmony should sound clearer now. I could hear the bass fine - it added nicely to the music, but a little fuller bass sound would be even better.
Well, that's not possible since I've recorded the bass to an audio track, no MIDI involved... I would have to play another whole bass track, and the first one was tricky enough, with all the free-floating piano playing! 
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#2128869 - 10/26/09 10:18 PM
Re: The Reharm Room
[Re: marino]
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That sounds a little better - it's very nice.
Nice nebulous key center with the Bbmaj.7#11 chord at the top, and I love that simple Gm, C sus effect going to the Fmaj7 (after the Gb half diminished, 7#11 or whatever you want to call it to the B.) You freshened the tune up, which was no small feat for a tune that was already nice.
Thanks for the grins on the silly "Part Of Me". It was only deserving of one grin icon at best.
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#2129165 - 10/28/09 12:26 AM
Re: The Reharm Room
[Re: lucasb]
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Steve, maybe time to think about that concept for your next record? Hmm, a CD with a hundred tracks...  30 second sections of songs I can't bring myself to play all the way through. I think you're onto something. 
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#2129377 - 10/28/09 12:29 PM
Re: The Reharm Room
[Re: marino]
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Hi guys. Sorry I haven't been active lately. I've been fighting off the flu throughout the whole weekend until yesterday. I need to go back and catch up on some of your reharms. Here's a reharm I did of "Imagine" (not even close to Vijay Iyer's) but I'm kinda torn on it. Some parts I like, and some I'm not crazy about. So, I'll put it up for public scrutiny, and see what you guys think. http://www.divshare.com/download/9073989-8c8Thanks, -Nathan (ndhjazz)
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#2130808 - 11/02/09 01:38 PM
Re: The Reharm Room
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#2130814 - 11/02/09 01:58 PM
Re: The Reharm Room
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#2130841 - 11/02/09 03:26 PM
Re: The Reharm Room
[Re: cnegrad]
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The kid's an amazing talent - assimilating Chickisms into his lines already. He couldn't have been working on that for more than what - 5 or so years total?
It also a good reminder of what fun he's actually having, which we should always have.
Stevie Wonder is a great pop songwriter/singer, but his playing on Giant Steps would have been good for a 13 yr. old.
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#2130883 - 11/02/09 06:39 PM
Re: The Reharm Room
[Re: cnegrad]
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I wasn't suggesting a musical comparison; I was just responding to one outrageous musical surprise with another. You succeeded.  I didn't think you were comparing them - I made the outrageous comparison.
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#2130971 - 11/03/09 05:31 AM
Re: The Reharm Room
[Re: SK]
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This morning I made an arrangement of "What's New". Meh. Somehow I had it better in my mind. I blame it on general morning sleepiness. Even better, I blame it on my youth  So Mo and his Plastic Orchestra give you: "Wuzz new" http://www.divshare.com/download/9164054-38c
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#2131036 - 11/03/09 08:47 AM
Re: The Reharm Room
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Pretty, Mo'. Nice, sort of slow latin feel. One minor thing I'd have done differently is set up the key changes to F and C more with chords leading to them, so they "arrive" instead of suddenly appearing as a surprise key change. But you can rationalize that either way - I liked it (except maybe for the end quote  )
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#2131054 - 11/03/09 09:46 AM
Re: The Reharm Room
[Re: SK]
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Pretty, Mo'. Nice, sort of slow latin feel. One minor thing I'd have done differently is set up the key changes to F and C more with chords leading to them, so they "arrive" instead of suddenly appearing as a surprise key change. But you can rationalize that either way - I liked it (except maybe for the end quote  ) Hey, thanks for the suggestion. I'll work on the key changes, that's a great hint! 
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#2131072 - 11/03/09 10:47 AM
Re: The Reharm Room
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Not even a suggestion, just an afterthought. You did a nice job on it.
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#2131090 - 11/03/09 11:35 AM
Re: The Reharm Room
[Re: SK]
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Not even a suggestion, just an afterthought. You did a nice job on it. Now you're rationalizing. 
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#2133232 - 11/10/09 11:47 PM
Re: The Reharm Room
[Re: Mo 'Wurst]
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Here's another 'Name That Tune'. This should be a very easy one. Part of a solo already in progress. Nothing special, but I tried to play some faux drums on it. I know they sound cheesy, but I felt like messing around with it. http://stashbox.org/694245/Name%20That%20Tune%20Two.mp3
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