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Stuff that changed your life #1739093
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I'm always asking people what gear changed their recording life. Perhaps this shows our age. Some of you may not understand some answers.

Here's mine: Mackie and Alesis. Before the Mackie Mixer and the ADAT if you wanted to record in a semi-pro fashion you had few options. For a console, you had to grab a live board from Crown, Yamaha, Carvin, etc... and they were NOISY and the mic pre amps were horrible. I mean horrible. You could find mic pre offerings from Aphex or DBX, but they were expensive and aimed at broadcast. You normally had to record on a cassette, 2, 4, 6, or 8 track cassette! If you had the bread for a reel to reel, it was a 2 track or a broken 4 track. You didn't have any good options at all. Then, Mackie shows up with mixers that had great preamps and were QUIET! And the ADAT shows up with 'pristine' sound. Look: we were so used to tape hiss that anything that was dead quite was a Godsend. No one called it brittle, cold, or harsh, because we were so used to tape hiss.

Well, that's my up hill in the snow both ways story. Please share yours.

Re: Stuff that changed your life [Re: ghaines] #1739261
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Well for me it was the day I bought a Akai MPC. I had only been a lyricist untill then. But once I started fooling around with a MPC I began to see my potential in making the music to songs also. Now one year later I have a home studio with the works, Korg Triton, MPC, Pro tools, NTK mic, Yamaha speakers and all kinds of other fun goodies.

Good old MPC showed me the light.

Re: Stuff that changed your life [Re: thanksforhelpethan] #1739271
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I dunno, a lot of us called ADATs brittle. Particularly the black faced ones.

My first really good mic is what changed my recording life. I then realized that I didn't have to try to fix everything with EQ, that certain mics just had the right sound on certain sources.

The 1176 was also a revelation. When used properly, heavy compression can really make things sound magical. Often when somebody likes a vocal sound and wants to know what mic was used, I realize that it's the compression that they are responding to, more so than the mic.


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Re: Stuff that changed your life [Re: J.J. Blair] #1739805
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haha, well its a bit different for me since i'm still a kid with a limited budget, not to mention I'm beginning my career in the digital age. None the less, multi-tracking has definately changed my recording life so far. My first recording experiences were with 2 dynamic mics and a 2 channel USB interface. Now having 8-16 channels is great, even if I don't have the nicest board or mics. Its still a step in the right direction!

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well I feel having talent and ambition beats having the best gear money can buy. In the 60s people had worse gear then even us budget guys have, and they made records people still love today.

So keep doing your thing bdub \:D

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Actually, gear in the '60s was probably better. It was tube, class A, state of the art.


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Re: Stuff that changed your life [Re: J.J. Blair] #1740721
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Right..there was little if any "pro-sumer", "home recording" gear back then in the '60s...or even most of the '70s.

It was all just "pro" gear...made by pros for pros!

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well then lol shows what i know ok replace 60's with 20's then haha.

Re: Stuff that changed your life [Re: thanksforhelpethan] #1743722
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Funny enough, I started with 16 and 24 tracks. Later, I went to a friend's home to mix her 8-track recordings done there, a simple reel-to-reel and Yamaha mixer with only 2 AUX ends and minimal 3-band EQ (not adjustable freq. or Q).

I had so few choices that I learned SO much about balancing things and how they interrelate. I only had a few combinations to try - not hundreds - so I learned more because I could understand the changes affecting the mix.


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ADAT's pretty much ruined my life. I lost some great performances due to the tape getting stuck and broken in the heads, sync issues and overall crappy sound. Yuck.

What changed my life was my first DAT machine. I was using a Tascam 388 in the late 80's and early 90's, syncing an Alesis drum machine via FSK (not even Smart FSK!). I had a small Tascam sub-mixer for the drums but could only record 7 tracks of audio. Once I purchased a DAT machine I was able to mix all my basic tracks to DAT, dump back to 2 tracks on the 388, record vocals, dump to DAT then record additional overdubs.

Even though some sound quality was lost for each dump, it made me a much better mixer because I had to visualize and compensate for final mixes down the road. Once I bought a Tascam TSR-8 (1/2") and a Tascam DAT (the first was a Prosumer Technics), my recordings made a another huge jump. Unfortunately, that was all wiped out by ADAT's from 1995-1999. Idiot!

After that, I'd say buying a Vintech X73i (Neve 1073 clone) and a UA 1176 for tracking vocals. Hearing that sound was almost as much of a revelation as my first Les Paul at age 15! It was like "Oh, NOW I know how they get that sound!".

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My Dad's reel to reel 4 track. I had my brother and sisters remake the entire Zappa Suzy Creamcheese side of Freakout, and I was only 10.


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Re: Stuff that changed your life [Re: BrianK] #1763971
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yo Brian (or anyone), I have a noob question about freq and Q. What exactly do they do. I know they are EQ settings and I can sorta hear what they do but was hoping you could exactly tell me.

Thanks.

Re: Stuff that changed your life [Re: Mike P] #1766611
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It was my first pairs of Neve 1073s (thanks, Fletcher) and Telefunken V76s. Showed me what a really GREAT mic pre sounds like.

Re: Stuff that changed your life [Re: ghaines] #1770479
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Well i'm not old, yet...

... but recently, Studio Projects VTB1 Mic Pre. Its changed the way i value expensive stuff...why does my Avalon M5 cost $1300 if it only sounds $50 better???

But originally - working with a 24 track 2inch Studer (cuz digital sucked i thought) and then one weekend, finally buying my first home computer...with Sound Forge Acid 1.0!! Then going back to the studio on Monday and saying to myself, "I wish i could just move audio around with such ease"...A few years later - voila - Protools HD. But it all started with a celeron 400, 128 ram, Acid 1.0, Soundblaster live, and a 57(an SM not a chevy)

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This thread is probably NOT about how good something is, at all. It's about when something gearwise changd your life...

I'd hgave to say this happens a lot - from my first reel-to-reel recorder, first fuzzbox, Mellotron, good compressor. Etc etc, many things have moved me down this road.

(BTW - your question about EQ would be best in a new thread). A good question - start a new thread and we'll all jump in.


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Walking into the guitar store and hearing some kid play, that made me feel liek I wasted the last year or so of my time trying to learn to play guitar. I realized that learning music is pointless and to just focus my time on making sure I have money so when I'm older I won't be living with my parents

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 Originally Posted By: BrianK
This thread is probably NOT about how good something is, at all. It's about when something gearwise changd your life...



My band did their first live studio session, at a small radio station. Changed my whole world.

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That EQ question is best if you start a new thread - then we can all pile in "on topic" with answers and help...


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Mellotron.


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Re: Stuff that changed your life [Re: ghaines] #1855218
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I dont think there is any stuff that change my life, But i think that PSP is the one which i have to name for these kind of gadgets.


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It's always the NEXT piece of gear that changes my life.

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Looking back on it....in late 1991 I bought a Sony DAT machine...the consumer one: with just RCA ins and outs. I got a TON of mileage out of that thing....it helped me get my electronic noise stuff on to a couple of local CD compilations and when I moved up to Portland in 1994 there were a couple of other electronic tweakers who really liked being my friend because I had something digital to mix down to (or sometimes just record direct). This eventually got me on a nationally distributed CD compilation and boy....it all went to my head after that.

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A pair of UA LA-610's started an avalanche of purchases for my home room: mics,(Neumann,Telefunken,Earthworks,Crowley&Tripp,
Senheiser&Shure),Converters,(Apogee),Plugins<(UA)and acoustic treatment. I was never able to "get it right" at home until those I used the UA's.

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That has been my new "bump" of inspiration as well...I recently bought an Apogee Duet and an LA 610 and now am looking to get some more stuff like, REALLY good mics.

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It's always the NEXT piece of gear that changes my life.

No doubt. Geez, with early digital technology, every other month was life-changing. Then with every "next generation" of digital technology.

Then going back to solid analog technology...

But the biggest single "how did I ever do this before..." item?

Tearing down the Sonex and installing broadband traps.


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It was my api lunchbox whit API 512C,API 550B.API 525 IT SOUND AMAAAAAZZZZIN

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Multitrack, period, changed my life.

After that, I guess random-access hard disc recording & editing yielded the biggest change, though I'm still not convinced it's for the better!

Re: Stuff that changed your life [Re: DdubBdrum] #2092657
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Totally agree buddy! kind of take multi tracking for granted a little now! still longing for the day we i get to produce in an old school studio to get that natural fuzz sound though!

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