I built DIY traps for my 11x11 ft. studio with help from everyone here and it has made my room sound much better. Now I need to figure out where in this room is the best place to sit to get the most balanced tone from my guitar for recording.
Contrary to what I've always done I'm thinking I should basically sit with my back to one of the parallel walls so I will be facing a wall(not a corner) across the room and have equal distance from each side wall. I'm thinking as long as I am not in the middle of the room this will be pretty balanced. What do you guys recommend?

ALso, will a DIY diffusor like the one shown in that other recent post work in a room this small to help balance the sound and make the room sound a little bigger???

Try sitting a little off center in the length and width dimensions, facing the far distances. Really, experimentation is the key.

I personally don't think diffusers have much of a place in your small room, but I have no proof of this. Others may have different opinions.

What I did is walked around my room while playing to find where the guitar sounds best. Of course, this will be hugely affected by the treatments you have. My own treatments are moveable, so I found the best room spot and then made a circle of freestanding broadband absorbers and gobos around it.

The tracks are sounding great!

I've noticed that if I sit facing a flat wall instead of a corner I get a more balanced sound.
I'm wondering if some diffusion on the wall I'm facing will give the sound the illusion of being in a larger room.

I don't think the diffusion will help you much in that small room.

Also, play with where the mic faces. That can change things as much or more than which way YOU face.

Bryan

I'm wondering if I do need some more mid/high absorbers. I have another mineral wool panel that I can make one more absorber from.
Maybe I should not have used FSK on all the bass traps.
Would it be a good idea to make another mid/high absorber and put it on the wall that I face when I play? Maybe this would help eliminate the problem of parallel walls. What do you think?

I think I'd make a movable gobo that's hard on one side and soft on the other that you can move around and get the sound you want.

Bryan

I went around the room clapping and found that I still have flutter echo so I probably need a little more broadband absorbers.

Do you think I still need more bass traps?
I have floor to ceiling bass traps in 3 corners and one 4 ft. bass trap in the other corner and one 4 ft. bass trap in each horizontal corner. Is this enough??

That amount of bass absorption should be enough to make your room pretty nice.

Do you think I need more broadband absorbers?

Should I have any broadband absorbers on the ceiling??

Do you think I need more broadband absorbers?

Should I have any broadband absorbers on the ceiling??

In ANY room with parallel surfaces, you can find places that you'll get flutter. What is it like in the places you'll be recording/listening? Those are the places that matter.

You could probably stand a LITTLE more of something like a 2" 3lb panel but you don't want a live room too dead.

Bryan

Would some 2" 8lb panels be ok?
I used 8lb. panels for my other bass traps doubled up, of course.

Right now I don't have any broadband absorbers on the wall that is behind where I sit when I play the guitar. Could this be a problem?
I'm wondering if each parallel wall should have at least one broadband absorber.

Any thoughts? Thanks again for the input.

3DFan:

What's wrong with the guitar sound you're getting? And where (low, mid, hight)?
What type of sound you are looking for?
It's a rhitm acoustic guitar track? Or is like a solo acoustic guitar track?
It's a nylon guitar? I love nylon
Where do you want to put it in the mix? Like a base sound? I mean driven the song or just filling space?

I play acoustic guitar and I have serius problems to get it right too.
Your room is concrete or sheetrock?
Did you try cardio mic 2" 3" from the guitar? It's depend where do you want to sit the guitar in the mix.
Forget omni if you have sheetrock walls.

Lionard

I have drywall walls.
I have tried various other mics like the Rode K2, Rode NT4(fixed xy) and Audio Technica Pro37.
Before I built my own DIY bass traps I have Foam By Mail acoustic foam and had overtreated the room to the point it was dead.

When I recorded a track then, I would have to use massive eq to attempt to get rid if a low range thud. (When I play chords there would be a nasty sound in the bass).
Because I had a dead room too much mid and highs were eliminated to so no matter what I couldn't eq enough to get a balanced track.

I am attempting to get a really nice, lush steel string acoustic guitar sound for rythm tracks. I want a nice rythm acoustic track as a major part of each song. Right now there is still a slight thud in the bass frequencies of my rhthm tracks and it seems like maybe some phase problems in the high end. When I clap my hands in the room I hear flutter echo. I am going to make a few more broadband absorbers that are 4" thick from 8 lb mineral wool and space them about 2" from the wall and see if that helps tame the bass a little bit more and also get rid of the flutter echo.
As for the omni mics, I tried the various cardiod mics I mentioned earlier and found the problems in the low end. If I put the mics close to the guitar I got proximity effect which made for too much bass. I tried putting the mic about 18" away from the neck body joint but at that distance the room still effected the sound.
With an omni mic you can put it really close to the instrument and not get proximity effect and if it is really close the room sound is limited a little.
When I play my guitar in the room it sounds a lot better than before I built my bass traps but I think I need a little more treatment to get it perfect for recording. I have to be careful not to make it too dead though.

Are you using the HF filter on the mics? I sure K2 would have it , not sure of the others. What about on the pre, and what pre are you using?
For rhythm guitar, you probably need to cut alot of lows in tracking, and in the mix. Sure the consensous is not to use eq whle tracking, but if you are comfortable and know what it is you really need I say go for some eq. Some may disagree about eqing during tracking, but if you know how to use it-do it. same while compression-though I wouldn't necessarily use compression for acoustic guitar. Being in a square room, it would be difficult to put the mic and/or guitar at an angle to the room, I couldn't suggest that.
If you can get a decent dry track, try adding in some delay instead of reverb. Then eq the delay to taste.
T

Originally posted by 3Dfan:
I have floor to ceiling bass traps in 3 corners and one 4 ft. bass trap in the other corner and one 4 ft. bass trap in each horizontal corner. Is this enough??

Originally posted by David French:
That amount of bass absorption should be enough to make your room pretty nice.

Originally posted by bpape:
You could probably stand a LITTLE more of something like a 2" 3lb panel but you don't want a live room too dead.

3DFan, it seems you dont have enough mid/high absorbers in the wall. I don't know much about bass traps, but David said is enough and I trust him.

You have 4 11'x 8' drywall without any mid/high absorption?. you don't worry too much about to live the room too dead.

You can cover 40% or 50% the walls with mid/high absorbers sparced and still is not too dead. Let's say one panel 2'W on the wall then 2' without.

Originally posted by 3Dfan:
(When I play chords there would be a nasty sound in the bass).

Can you check playing with the guitar the 4th,5th and 6th string separetly and going up and down and see if there's one note in particular that resonate?. Usually you can feel it in the floor. And is good while you have the Mic (cardio) in front ready to record, just watch the meter how goes up and down.

Try to place the Mic down facing up the guitar(in cardio) to see how is the response in the lows. Is happen to me now, using this way, that the sound of the guitar is a lot better. I just make a 703 suspended ceiling maybe that's why.

I'd like to help you more. Any way, you need to finish your room with mid/hight absorbers.

Sorry if I'm not to clear or mispelling. English is not in my strong side.

Lionard

I'd be very careful about covering 50% of the wall surface with absorbtion in a live room - unless it was a vocal booth.

Bryan

Byran, SInce I have FSK on the bass absorbers will it be OK to add a little broadband absorbers? I am thinking of making them 4" thick to help tame the bass a little more since it is a small square room.