ok im thinking of rigging my corners like this( i hope you can get the idea from my drawings i suck at drawing . basically on low bass trap on one side of wall higher bass trap on other side and then directly in corner have either a box shape or a triangle shaped cotten tube holder going along the entire corner.

my main thing is one would this be effective to have all 3 of these bass traps in a corner.

also how exactly should this corner cotten tube trap thing be mounted? should it have 2 wood sides on the back by the wall and be directly mounted against the wall, should it not be right on the wall but a few inches away, should I make these have no solid sides and basically have all sides cotton surrounded by some type of cloth(to hold in the cotten and look nice)?

what do ya guys think?

P.S as for the big wall bass traps to the sides i already know how to build/ mount them thanks to ethan so i dont need advice on them just this cotten corner tube thing.


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Well, I think you need to look at what the room really needs. Having the high and low membranes in the same corner will work well - in the bass.

The cotton will provide good broadband. If you need the broadband and want to do thick cotton in the corners, do that - then add the membrane absorbers elsewhere in the room in the axes that have the issues.

Bryan

well this is only for sampling/mixing my music from mpc/keyboard, i also will be doing vocal recordings in the room.

However im just a guy that likes to make music, your the knowledgible acustic guy . what type of traps would i need for this type of work? and where?

How big is the room? This will dictate if you have the room for the membrane absorbers or not and also if diffusion could be effective.

Doing both in a single room requires some care in selecting treatments. You don't want it too dead to track in but need it relatively dead to mix in.

If the only 'live' recording you're going to do in the room is vocals, you can afford it to be a little deader.

i made the other post too with the 3 floor plans. id like most to have the somewhat triangle shaped room because more room. seems like from what im learning that this might be a nightmare for good sound.

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isnt a live room for "live instruments, singing" and dead rooms for mixing?

lol im such a rookie at some music terms and know how

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theres this floor plan too but makes me think the vocal room would be too small make good recordings. what do you think?

i mean what kind of room do you even need to make good vocal recordings?

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heck even these plans, i just need good sound ill do whatever i got to do to get it acustically in tuned. any other ideas on a good floorplan with the space i have to work with is greatly appreciated.

4.5 x 6 is a very workable size for a vocal booth.

Seriously, if you don't want the hassle of the separate room, the extra volume will be usable in mixing. Either way can be made to work.

Bryan

well for looks and such and ease of construction i think i actually like the idea of the 4.5 by 6 vocal booth and a 9 by 11 mixing room. Correct me if im wrong but shouldent the acustic properties of a vocal room and a mixing room be fairly different?

my understanding for vocals is for the most part you want mainly midrange defusers, as well as a to reduce deflections in high range (expecially in that small of a room). Furthermore that bass wont be much of a concern so i dont need bass traps for strictly vocals. I can mostly just line all walls and ceiling with some egg carton foam and be good to go. mabie 2 small higher range bass traps up in top corners.

Now with a mixing room itll be mainly bass traps with mabie some midrange traps, but not much worrys with high sounds. so id line all corners both wall and ceiling with low and high bass traps. Then perhaps toss in some midrange, wool, or cloth traps either on corners or walls( or perhaps instead of the wool or cloth just use egg carton foam on some walls).

does this sound right? am i missing anything? or is this totally ass backwards and i said nothing right? :p

I wouldn't do a vocal booth that way. You're making decisions based on some less than accurate assumptions - primarily that just because it's vocals, it's all midrange.

The human voice can very easily get down in the area of 100Hz. I'd make sure that if possible, you can splay at least 1 of the walls in the booth and treat it fully with broadband absorbtion. I just got done doing a booth not too much different sized than yours (but it was all splayed walls, hard floor, soft ceiling, angled ceiling). It was done completely with 3.5" Acoustical Cotton.

The owners were very pleased with the results. It's a very dry, up front sound that can be changed slightly depending on vocalist and mic placement and orientation. In any case, it's a very easy track to work with.

Bryan