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Re: 70's Fusion Artists / Albums #1509220 10/14/05 12:15 PM
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On Introducing the Eleventh House with Larry Coryell (1972), there was a tune by Alphonse Mouzon (who had also been the drummer on Weather Report's first album) called "The Funky Waltz." If I remember correctly it had more or less a very similar rhythmic feel as Zawinul's "Boogie Woogie Waltz" but was not the same tune. The album with it on, Sweetnighter, came out in 1973.

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Bside Cruise Control, what are some other smokin' Morse cut recorded in the 70's w/ the Dregs?


Also, Robben Ford's The Inside Story was cut in 1979 !!

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I like most of The Dregs album "What If". Two of the most smokin' cuts are "Take It Off The Top" and "Ice Cakes", and "Odyssey" isn't far behind.


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Okay, Al DiMeola's Cut Golden Dawn with Jaco on it was pretty sick.

Land of the Midnight Sun was the album cut in 1976

There are some other cuts on it worth spending money on

I will be posting my favorite al solos on Romantic Warrior

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Re: 70's Fusion Artists / Albums #1509226 10/15/05 12:08 PM
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Quote:
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Stanley Clarke's first solo album, with Bill Connors on guitar,
didn't know that

Oh, and what about Stevie Wonder's Contusion???

I mean the tune Contusion by Stevie Wonder, lol .

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...Stanley Clarke's first solo album, with Bill Connors on guitar...
Actually that was not his first solo album, there was one earlier called Children of Forever that had Pat Martino on guitar on some tracks. That Nemperor release, I think it was just called Stanley Clarke, with the picture of him with the Alembic bass on the cover, was his second solo album, and indeed does have some of Bill Connors' best playing on it...

Bill Connors recently surfaced again with a modern jazz effort that is really excellent...

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Ahhhhhhh Pat Martino

First Light compilation w/ Joyous Lake and Starbright is Mos Def some sick mid 70's funk / fusion

Delmar Brown and Kenwood Dennard in their U of M days

C - A - N - E- S CANES !!!

Man right when I think The list of albums/players has burned out, y'all keep the light bulb on.'


thanks guys (gals?) - are there any fusion chicks ?

Most of the time you see the significant other grabbing her man's hand and dragging the poor whipped puppy dog out of those kinds of shows before the encore !!!

Saw it happen at a G3 in superfluity - like cattle rustlin' -- so sorry, so sorry . . .

Rule #1 -- No bringing women to fusion shows.

Go back to that 6 year old mentality you had towards girls for a couple hours . ..

Child Psychology mui importante'

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Quote:
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...Stanley Clarke's first solo album, with Bill Connors on guitar...
Actually that was not his first solo album, there was one earlier called Children of Forever that had Pat Martino on guitar on some tracks. That Nemperor release, I think it was just called Stanley Clarke, with the picture of him with the Alembic bass on the cover, was his second solo album, and indeed does have some of Bill Connors' best playing on it...

Bill Connors recently surfaced again with a modern jazz effort that is really excellent...
I wasn't aware of the earlier album. I do mean the one with the picture of Stanley and his Alembic.

Bill Connors is a genius.

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For Al DiMeola, I think the best of that period is Elegant Gypsy. His later music on the Telarc label is better overall music, but for over teh top guitar stuff, you have to love Elegant Gypsy and Casino.

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Fusion chicks-I nominate Tanya Maria. Delicious Bossa Nova jazz piano.
Patrice Rushen, sort of.
Bobbi Humphrey.


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Okay, guys are we at the bottom of the barrel?

Are we gonna have to go down to Steely Dan Solos from the 70's?

Maybe some Zappa(FZ, herein) solos

If so, then Larry Carlton's solo on Kid Charlemagne of of Royal Scam in '76 would be, in my opinion, an epitomized 70's fusion solo

Zoot Allures would be my Zappa pick

What say, ye?

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Billser mentioned RTF- Hymn of the 7th Galaxy. This one is killer.

ALso, Jean Luc Ponte had a few good ones during this era. Some of my favorite Alan Holdsworth work is on Enigmatic Oceans by Luc Ponte.

Id also second T. Williams lifetime.

Lee Ritenour also has a few albums from the era worth checking out.

Larry Carlton.


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Robben Ford's "Inside Story" and the Larry Carlton album with "Rio Samba" - I think they were both from '79; but I ain't betting the farm on it!

There was a great issue of Musician magazine a couple of years back dedicated to the fusion question, with interviews with lots of guitarists who were involved in making it happen.

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Quote:
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Robben Ford's "Inside Story" and the Larry Carlton album with "Rio Samba" - I think they were both from '79; but I ain't betting the farm on it!
The Larry Carlton-was that not `Strikes Twice`?


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Larry's album with Rio Samba was his first LP, simply titled Larry Carlton. That album also had Room 335 which is great, and the killer "Point it Up" which every guitarist should study (for years, probably!)


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I'd also suggest checking out Focus, and specifically their excellent guitarist Jan Akkerman. Great vibrato and hammon-on/pull off style.


"I look for whatever will cut the deepest... whammy bars and wah wah pedals can't be used as just gimmicks. They have to reflect and express your feelings." - Jeff Beck
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Thanks so much, guys for these contributions

Check out this guys mad fusion obsessions
http://www.angelfire.com/oh/scotters/fusion.html

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Oh, I just came across a cool reminder. Check out Gong, early work by Steve Hillage who has gone on
to do some really interesting things in the techno/ambient field.


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Allan Holdsworth also played on a couple of Gong records, notably Gazuese!, Espresso, and Espresso II (the latter also has Mick Taylor on a track or two.

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Re: 70's Fusion Artists / Albums #1509242 06/05/06 12:05 AM
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For some reason I prefer Weather Report's Black Market to Heavy Weather. Neither have any guitar, but the former is so awesome. I think it was the transition from Miroslav Vitous to Alphonso to Jaco. I think all 3 might actually be playing on it - and the variety is interesting, and the solid composition skills of Joe Zawinul is uncompromising.

My other picks have already been mentioned ( some in passing) but are:

Stanley Clarke - School Days
Joni Mitchell - Hejira
RTF - Romantic Warrior
Al Di Meola - Elegant Gypsy
Jeff Beck - Wired, Blow by Blow
John McLauglin -Electric Guitarist, Devotion

The last one Devotion has the rhythm section of Band oF Gypsies, and imo you can hear the melodic seeds of the Mahavishnu Orchestra in John's playing.

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Both the Fire Merchant cds.John Goodsall is the man.Terje Rypdal Odyssey.

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Duh!!!!!!Fire merchants is from the 80's.

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Not sure if this helps much as most of his recordings are hard to find or out of print.
He is definitely worth checking out by going to used record stores or maybe Ebay.

Barry Miles is an often forgotten keyboard pioneer of Fusion. I have his "Fusion Is" album and it's great. He played on the first three Al DiMeola solo albums in the the late 70s also.

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"Barry Miles was considered a child prodigy: he began playing drums when he was three, piano at five and joined the Musicians Union when he was nine. Miles played drums professionally from the age of ten, including sitting in with the Woody Herman Orchestra. At age 12, he recorded his first album as a leader on drums, leading a sextet that included pianist Duke Jordan. As a teenager, he studied classical piano and soon switched instruments. Originally a bop-oriented player, Miles leaned towards fusion by the late 1960s, often playing electric piano and synthesizer. He led Silverlight for several years (his sidemen at various times included Woody Shaw, John Abercrombie and Al DiMeola), worked as Roberta Flack's musical director in the early 1980s, and became a studio musician in New York. Although he periodically pops up on records, Miles has not yet lived up to his great potential as a major jazz improviser. Miles has led albums for the Charlie Parker label (1959-60), Venture (1967), Poppy (1970), Mainstream (1972), London (1974) and Gryphon (1977)."


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Good picks, Windjammer. Black Market is way superior to Heavy Weather imho, the interaction of the players is great. It doesn't feature Vitous though, only Pastorius and Johnson (mostly Alphonso). Narada Michael Walden and Chester Thompson also both play separately oon the album and you can hear both on different sections of Black Market. Mysterious Traveller is, to my mind, the second greatest album by WR, discounting the early stuff, which I love, but was less related to fusion. Check out Live in Tokyo with Vitous - wow!
Blow by Blow, I wish Jeff Beck made another album as good as that.
Devotion (greta album - if flawed). The rhythm section isn't quite the band of Gypsies. It features Buddy Miles and Billy Rich (not Billy Cox!)

My own recommenstaions will follow once I get time (lunchtime?) but I'd like to point out the definitive book on the genre:
Jazz-Rock (A history) by Stuart Nicholson.

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Thanks for correcting me Phil W.
It's always nice to hear from someone who knows their stuff.

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Cheers, Windjammer.
When it comes to 70s fusion, I know more than I do about other things. The 70s (partculrly the early 70s and late 60s) seemed to have been such an exciting time, musically. It seemed anything was possible. The racial divisions were (slowly) beginning to come down, the music had a rawness and experimentation and the 'cross-fertilization' between genres and cultures was producing some exciting moments.

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OK, great thread, thanks for bumping this, yZeCounsel. Most of the great have been mentioned, but not all. I'll list some of my faves first - then others worthy of recognition. Some have been posted before but this is a long thread.

My favourites:
Bitches Brew, Tribute to Jack Johnson and Agharta (my alltime favourite) by Miles Davis (also check out othersof the period
Lotus (my second favourite), Caravanserai and Welcome by Santana
Love, Devtion and Surrender by Carlos Santana and John McLaughlin
Black Market and Mysterious Traveller by Weather Report
Spectrum by Billy Cobham
Headhunters and Thrust by Herbie Hancock
Spaces by Larry Coryell
Inner Mounting Flame by the Mahavishnu Orchestra - their rawest, finest and most exciting, also {b]Birds of Fire[/b]
Wired by Jeff Beck
School Days by Stanley Clarke
Venusian Summer by Lennie White, - the grooves, the grooves!
Red Clay by Freddie Hubbard
Bright Size Life by Pat Metheney
Of Human Feelings by Ornette Coleman and Prime Time
Gazeuse - Gong (released as Expresso inthe US

Honourable Mentions
RTF/Al DiMeola - not really my cup of tea but great nonetheless
Jimi - 9 to the Universe -released in the 80s but my idea of fusion
Tony Williams Lifetime
Nucleus (groundbreaking UK group) - Elastic Rock, Out of the Long Dark
Brecker Brothers
Headhunters - Survival of the Fittest
Bill Connors
Grover Washington's early stuff
The Crusaders
Joni Mitchell - Hejira, Mingus (great record) Shadows and Light (great but it's from 1980)
Gary Bartz Nu Troop
Gil Scott Heron
Roy Ayers
Steely Dan - Aja
Donald Byrd - Blackbyrd

Modern CDs that very much capture and update the early 70s fusion mentality include-
Meshell Ndegeocello's Spirit Music Jama
Lost Tribe
and especially
Wadada Leo Smith and Henry Kaiser's Yo Miles Project

Enjoy

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