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Synth Programming Challenge #1
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Along the same lines as Dave Horne's theory challenges, I thought it might me fun to try some programming challenges. Do it (or don't) with whatever keyboard/synth you want. Then tell us how you did it. Also feel free to give the next challenge.

Today I went to apply a vibrato effect to a mono sound with a long release time (i.e. the sound continues long after I let the key go). I want the vibrato to continue after releasing the note. Sounds easy? I forgot to mention you have to use aftertouch only for controlling the vibrato and no vibrato should be present when the next note is played.

BTW I did it with an A6. I'll tell how if anyone finds this thread at all interesting.

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You sound well clever

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Ah, the cleverness of Markyboard. Not an A6 user, but would that be some combination of special A6 features that's of absolutely zero use to the rest of us??? :p


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Route AT to trigger ENV1 which controls LFO Level, reset ENV1 on new note.

I did sound design on the A6, it's one of my favorite tools

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Originally posted by The Real MC:
Route AT to trigger ENV1 which controls LFO Level, reset ENV1 on new note.

I did sound design on the A6, it's one of my favorite tools
I routed LFO 1 to one of the the oscillator modulators. Then I set up LFO 1 for trigger mode with aftertouch as the trigger source (instead of letting the keyboard start and stop the LFO). Using the Envelope trigger sounds like another way I hadn't considered.

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Originally posted by DafDuc:
Ah, the cleverness of Markyboard. Not an A6 user, but would that be some combination of special A6 features that's of absolutely zero use to the rest of us??? :p
I think other keyboards will do this as well and I hate the mod suddenly being cut off when I release a note. But hey Daf- it's your turn. Why don't you tell us what your favorite preset is? :p \:D

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You sound well clever
I guess this doesn't bode well for one of your long term relationships. Better get back to your 250k job at Blockbuster. Welcome to the forum.

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Originally posted by DafDuc:
Ah, the cleverness of Markyboard. Not an A6 user, but would that be some combination of special A6 features that's of absolutely zero use to the rest of us??? :p
I think other keyboards will do this as well and I hate the mod suddenly being cut off when I release a note. But hey Daf- it's your turn. Why don't you tell us what your favorite preset is? :p \:D
I like hitting the A440 button on my prophet and then going out to the parking lot for a beer.


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Is it cheating to patch it on my modular?


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Originally posted by DafDuc:
I like hitting the A440 button on my prophet and then going out to the parking lot for a beer.
I can trigger vibrato on my mini's A-440 tone by taking a leak.

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I can trigger vibrato on my mini's A-440 tone by taking a leak.
OK John Holmes, Mr. 12.58", now you're just bragging. \:D


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Originally posted by DafDuc:
I like hitting the A440 button on my prophet and then going out to the parking lot for a beer.
I can trigger vibrato on my mini's A-440 tone by taking a leak.
On the mini?
That's disgusting! :p


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Originally posted by DanS:
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Originally posted by Markyboard:
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Originally posted by DafDuc:
I like hitting the A440 button on my prophet and then going out to the parking lot for a beer.
I can trigger vibrato on my mini's A-440 tone by taking a leak.
On the mini?
That's disgusting! :p
Didn't take long for this thread to go South.

edit: Damn - I thought DanS was Dan South. Wasted a really bad one there. \:o

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I route my LFO through ENV1 then into my Craftsman Air Compressor.


Not only light, it is airy.

;\)

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Originally posted by The Real MC:
Route AT to trigger ENV1 which controls LFO Level, reset ENV1 on new note.

I did sound design on the A6, it's one of my favorite tools
that'll work as long as ENV 1 release stage lasts as long as the amp env rel lasts. otherwise the effect will fade out before the sound does.


ok marky - now make the lfo only come in after you release the note. and while you're at it, might as well have the key release initiate a filter sweep.

that should keep you busy. \:D

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Originally posted by forceman:
I route my LFO through ENV1 then into my Craftsman Air Compressor.


Not only light, it is airy.

;\)
Yeah, the Craftsman is a really "Pro" sounding compressor. But I prefer Masonite when it comes to Brick-Wall limiting.


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air compressors only work on frequencies above 10Khz.

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Originally posted by The Real MC:
Route AT to trigger ENV1 which controls LFO Level, reset ENV1 on new note.

I did sound design on the A6, it's one of my favorite tools
that'll work as long as ENV 1 release stage lasts as long as the amp env rel lasts. otherwise the effect will fade out before the sound does.


ok marky - now make the lfo only come in after you release the note. and while you're at it, might as well have the key release initiate a filter sweep.

that should keep you busy. \:D
Gate signal into a logic inverter. Inverter output controlling VCA for LFO amplitude (or inverter out triggers EG that controls VCA for LFO amplitude). Inverter output fires EG for filter sweep.


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................Gate signal into a logic inverter. Inverter output controlling VCA for LFO amplitude (or inverter out triggers EG that controls VCA for LFO amplitude). Inverter output fires EG for filter sweep. [/QB]
maybe - but i thought we're talking A6 here,
not reaktor or G2. ;\)


i was thinking more along the lines of using the oft-neglected release velocity.

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ok marky - now make the lfo only come in after you release the note. and while you're at it, might as well have the key release initiate a filter sweep.

that should keep you busy. \:D
Not really. Set LFO Trigger source and Env 2 Trigger source both to Vox Key Off Vel and trigger type to negative.

Hey Mate- Stub you doing that on a Kurz?

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................Gate signal into a logic inverter. Inverter output controlling VCA for LFO amplitude (or inverter out triggers EG that controls VCA for LFO amplitude). Inverter output fires EG for filter sweep.
maybe - but i thought we're talking A6 here,
not reaktor or G2. ;\)


i was thinking more along the lines of using the oft-neglected release velocity. [/QB]
Hey - I got my post in before reading this. And I said you can do this on any thing you want - I just picked an A6 but I might give it a try on the PEK next. After I get rid of the ladies.

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.....................Gate signal into a logic inverter. Inverter output controlling VCA for LFO amplitude (or inverter out triggers EG that controls VCA for LFO amplitude). Inverter output fires EG for filter sweep. [/QB]
naw - i think you're trickin' us. how does an inverter work on a modular?
it should give 1/voltage (instead of direct voltage), but only for the duration of the gate.
when the key is released, the gate ends.

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Logic inverter behavior as opposed to a voltage inverter:

When gate is high, logic inverter output = zero.
When gate is low, logic inverter output = high.

When gate is high, voltage inverter output = -high.
When gate is low, voltage inverter output = -low.


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