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#1114591 - 09/05/04 09:00 PM Re: "Rhodes" in Yamaha P250 / P120 / S90?
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#1114592 - 09/05/04 09:21 PM Re: "Rhodes" in Yamaha P250 / P120 / S90?
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I also love the Vintage 74 Rhodes on the Motif, but can't get myself to justify the purchase of the rack or ES6 just for that sound. I have the S80, and am happy with it for the most part. I don't use it for Pianos, I use Bardstown Audio or the Bosie 290 samples in Kontakt or even my Korg SGpro module every once in a while. But for EP, the Vintage 74 is really beautiful and very expresssive.

Boy, I wonder if that patch is closely approximated on the PLG150pf? Anybody know?

aL
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#1114593 - 09/05/04 09:38 PM Re: "Rhodes" in Yamaha P250 / P120 / S90?
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#1114594 - 09/05/04 10:22 PM Re: "Rhodes" in Yamaha P250 / P120 / S90?
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Originally posted by BOPBEEPER:
Every now and then a UK player called Jonathan Gee hits town and a mate loans him the P120.Now Jonathan is natural born groover and he mostly just plays the EP2 Rhodes well, .
Yeah Jonathan Gee is a killer player, I saw him on Jazz 606 years ago with David Jean Baptiste yhe superb bass clarinet player... wow great song too called "Fire people" I think..

Can't imagine him playing a digital...

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#1114595 - 09/05/04 11:48 PM Re: "Rhodes" in Yamaha P250 / P120 / S90?
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Originally posted by petros

Your S80 has the original version of "Vintage 74" but it's called "Herb Roadz". I think "Herb Roadz" had slightly fatter high notes than "Vintage 74". The old PLG150-PF piano card had another variation of it called "Tea" Rhodes and it seemed to have even fatter high notes.
You are nitpicking these Rompler edits too much. The newer instruments should sound better.

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#1114596 - 09/06/04 01:48 AM Re: "Rhodes" in Yamaha P250 / P120 / S90?
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The Herb Rhodes doesn't seem to have as much phasing, or some other effect as the vintage 74 does. The 74 seems to either have a chorus effect or something that does make it fatter than the Herb Rhodes...

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#1114597 - 09/06/04 01:53 AM Re: "Rhodes" in Yamaha P250 / P120 / S90?
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#1114598 - 09/06/04 02:32 AM Re: "Rhodes" in Yamaha P250 / P120 / S90?
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Herb Rhodes has an auto pan effect also, or is it a tremolo? It's different than the Vintage 74.... But the quality of the vintage 74 seems phatter and fuller than the Herb Rhodes. I think it's the second layer of the Vintage 74 sample that seems to have more growl than the Herb Rhodes sample....
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#1114599 - 09/09/04 08:59 PM Re: "Rhodes" in Yamaha P250 / P120 / S90?
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I have played both the P250 and the S90 they are both very fine high quality keyboards. That P120dUde is smoking crack if he thinks the P250 is "awful" compared to teh P120. It one thing to have a personal preference of the keyboard you like but its another thing to mindlessly slam and not respect another keyboards and people's opinions.

If you dont need the built in speakers I would go for the S90. The action should be almost identical and it will be smaller and more expandable for the future. The P250 has a very beautiful grand piano sound. I like it on the mellow grand piano because its so warm and nice. But it has several pianos. I would LOVE to have either the P250 or S90 or even P120, P90, P60.

Many people think the P250 has the best digital piano sound of the yamahas. I would not disagree with that. Its a really good sound. I would definitely recommend trying both the P250 and the S90 in the same showroom and decide which would fit your needs the best.

People like Yamahas, Rolands, Kurzweils, etc. Get the keyboard you like and then you will never regret it. (I'm going to try follow my own advice here myself and get a keyboard soon I hope)

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#1114600 - 09/10/04 12:44 PM Re: "Rhodes" in Yamaha P250 / P120 / S90?
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I had a P-250 for about six months... and sold it for an S90. The P-250 may be the superior piano but i have more fun with the S90.
I did the swap because of the many beautiful Rhodes sounds in the S90.
I'll put the new AP board in as soon as i can buy one (end of october ??) \:D

lvercaut

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